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Observations
Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:26:41 -0500
On Wednesday, December 16, 1998 there was a long article on Leslie Friedman
in the Wall Street Journal and her hunt to find a man to marry. While there
were a lot of interesting bits and pieces in this article (she is a woman
probably in her 40's who made a lot of money who neglected her social life
and who is now spending a considerable amount of cash redesigning herself,
getting high priced dating consultants, going where she feels qualified men
will be, etc. in her search for a marriage partner). One of the snippets
that jumped out at me was her discussion about how men want to sleep with
her right away. For example, she talks about meeting a successful educated
attorney who, the first date suggests going up to his apartment. She says
"I hardly know you" and it ends that he sees her home in a cab (I am not
sure if that means he got into the cab with her but that would be an
original idea to me). A few days later, over drinks, he tells her "If you
really liked me, you would sleep with me" tonight. When she says no, his
response is, "Why does this have to be all on your terms? What about my
needs and feelings?" She recognizes this as the language of negotiation
which she feels is familiar terrain and responds, "Maybe we could meet both
of our needs. I'm willing to sleep with you tonight, but I want to know
your not going to just drop me." In return, she asks for "12 weeks of
monogamy." She actually has a fallback position and is willing to settle
for six weeks. This makes her date nervous and in the end of the date gives
her a peck on the cheek, says "I've heard your terms" and disappears into
the night.
While this may seem obvious to most of you reading this, the issue of a
woman feeling that you will not just sleep with her and never call again
appears to be a key element in the seduction process for many of them. In
other words, if they feel you will be around afterwards they may go for it
much sooner than otherwise. I also notice that women who describe what they
want as a "long term relationship" are dancing a fine line; they don't want
a short term relationship (they don't want to be thought of as easy), but
they themselves don't know if they will want to be with a particular man
long term until they go out with them for awhile. This "long term
relationship" is just a defense mechanism, a term that may actually mean
more what a man is looking for than they would be willing to outwardly
admit. Another thing that I have noticed (for some reason I have to learn
these lessons over and over during my life) is that the prospects of a long
term relationship also entail some scary prospects for women no matter how
much they may say that that is what they want. I have been very successful
almost always when I begin an encounter with a woman by saying something
like "Right now my life is going through a lot of changes and I am not
looking for anything serious. I take life one day at a time. If something
really serious develops, I'll think about it when the time comes, but for
now I don't want to pressure anyone and I don't want any pressure from
anyone." It seems that this gives them permission to let loose and relax
from the terrorism of finding that one special man for that intense serious
relationship. But, key in this equation is the sense that there will be an
ongoing "friendship" (I don't know about you, but I don't sleep with my
friends although perhaps I should reconsider my attitude here) where respect
and dignity are maintained despite the uncommitted nature of the physical
intimacy.
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