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The Power of the Mind and Seduction
Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:13:09 -0500

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across. I am still too backlogged with books and tapes I've bought to buy
any more unless they really grab me, but I would be very interested to hear
from anyone who buys any of the products below (or others).
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The ability to attract, date, seduce and perform with women has been an art
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interesting site, and Yates is the publisher of the book!

Take a look at this site http://www.hypnotapes.com/index.htm.  A lot of
hypnotic seduction tapes, psychic seduction, the works.  Reviews, anyone?

Dee:  Here is some of what I have experienced for better mind power
seduction visualization.  Let me say firstly, that mind power seduction
(http://www.projectduat.com/mind-power-seduction/) REALLY WORKS. It is going
to be one of your MOST POWERFUL TOOLS of seduction or materialization. I am
not saying I am a supergod or anything, but can you just imagine (notice
weasel phrases) what it would be like to be so good at visualization that
you get immediate results from the women you desire? Even more than that,
visualizing WHATEVER you want, and then GETTING IT??? This is a GREAT power
that most people have NO clue about... even if they did, they would deny it.
Too bad for them. The advantage is all yours. Well, here is my experience
(most recent). I have been mentally seducing this one attractive girl at
work... she is REALLY quiet and shy, and hardly made eye contact with me...
that is until, I started doing MPS on her. I saw her in my mind doing all
sorts of wonderful things to me. I would see her in my mind, FEEL her and
HEAR her doing everything I imagine to me NOW. [Side note: This is
important... making the experience as REAL as possible IN THE NOW... because
guess what... it IS real!!! It is just on a different
plane/frequency/vibration! Think of it this way... your thoughts are much
like water vapor that needs to solidify... it may be hard to believe based
on observation alone that solidification is really happening or even that
the water is there!  But, eventually, this water vapor becomes more REAL...
more SOLID after a short time... it turns into WATER. And it can become even
MORE solid after time... it turns into ice. My point here with this analogy,
however good or bad it may be, is that although you can't see it with your
naked eyes, IT  EXISTS when your mind thinks it. The alpha state magnifies
this power.]
Anyway, back to my story: I have been working on this girl in my mind for
about a month now... seeing her getting royally fucked by me... (forgive the
crude language) I can see her beneath me, making all sorts of contorted
sexual faces, her heated body below me, her boobs gyrating and flapping
around with my thrusts, her hair in my nose, smelling like shampoo... her
labored breath on my ear, heating me up, screaming in pure pleasure...
etc... ALL VERY GRAPHIC AND REAL... AS IF IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!! So I
have been visualizing this stuff with this girl for the past month or so...
and her attitude towards me has CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY. She gives me more eye
contact, has approached me with questions... I was once in a room with one
other person, she came in and did something very uncharacteristic of her...
she said "Well, HOW is everybody today?!" She said it theatrically. My
theory is that she might not have been so open if it were only ME in the
room, but since there was more than ONE person, she wouldn't have to address
any ONE of us. She was most probably really addressing ME, since she is good
friends with the other person and didn't need to ask her. Another big sign
that it is working is that this girl SIGHS wistfully whenever she is near
me. There are many other signs... little things... she will pretend to be
stressed out to get me to ask "what's wrong?" MANY little things that are
typical to the female mating ritual. I also visualized her laughing because
I was funny... the very next day,
BAM, she was laughing with something I said. I could go on and on
incoherently about all the things that this girl has "done" to get my
attention... but would only get you TOO EXCITED to GO OUT AND PRACTICE MPS.
It is almost humbling to realize how much power this gives you. Does that
just make sense? I hope it does... let me know if you have any other
questions about it and I will answer it to the best of my ability.

My Comment: I think my biggest problem is that I find visualizing a bit
difficult. Not that I don't visualize, but I find that the images shift a
lot -- like if I imagine myself in another person, associated, this doesn't
stay that way and I shift out of that state. I think I just need a lot more
practice.  I have been doing some of the exercises designed to improve
"Psychic Influence" that I learned at Ross's Speed Life Seminar in the
Bahamas and I am hoping to see similar results soon.

Dee: There a couple of things you can do to make your visualizations more
powerful... 1) Look at a simple everyday object, like a pencil, and MEMORIZE
EVERY SINGLE DETAIL YOU CAN about it. Look at it, close your eyes, and try
to reproduce EVERYTHING about that image that you can. Notice the difference
in the reflection of the rubber, metal and wooden surfaces... notice what
numbers are on the pencil (is it a No. 2?) FEEL the pencil with your hands,
teeth, SMELL the rubber and the lead. LOOK at the point of the pencil... is
it sharp or dull? SOAK IN all of the details about the pencil and re-create
them in your mind. And remember to make it as real as possible... this is
why I say FEEL the pencil and SMELL and even BITE it. EXPERIENCE the pencil.
2) You can pretend as though you already are very good at visualization.
This might be a little bit more challenging to do, but go with me... sit
down, relax, and feel like you are already a MASTER of visualization.
PRETEND like you are actually living your normal life... like your eyes are
already open and you are actually doing everyday things... except make the
day how you want it! Understand?  I now have a couple of questions for you.
1) Can you give me a general rundown of HUNA or at least a good source about
it? What is it all about? Can you point me to a source if you can't answer
the following:
A)  How does one produce so called "deep trance" phenomena like positive and
negative hallucination at will, on command, and use them to design "internal
thought machines" that automatically propel you toward your goals? This
sounds like visualization to me...
B)How does one program oneself for directions and not goals, and why,
contrary to 99.9999% of the bullshit out there, this is profoundly more fun,
powerful and effective?
C) How does one program oneself to build a "dream generator" to review
thousands of possible options for problem solving while sleeping and to also
rehearse new behaviors, thoughts, attitudes and possibilities??? This sounds
like neat stuff!!! I understand that this is DHE... know anything about it?
Any feedback is appreciated.

My Comment:  How about someone more qualified than I give some answers?

Rob (Beginning a torrent of comments on pheromones): REALM smells like SHIT!
It smells like the really really cheap shit you get at Shoppers Drug mart or
something.  In the lit they send with it, they say something to the effect
of "it gives you more confidence because it smells really good and other
people will like being around you because you smell good"  I felt like an 80
year old guy wearing that stenchy crap!!!

Max: I never noticed a difference when I put on the cheap stuff called Yes!
before the action. But once in bed, it appears that women are much more
active and willing to give than without the pheromone cologne (which I spray
near the appropriate parts of my body).

My Comments: So you are saying that they are less turned on when you wear
the cheap stuff... Maybe you know you are wearing the cheap stuff and don't
feel great for having worn it and this dampens your enthusiasm?

Max: I said, that 'once in bed the women are going wild much more
easily and faster than without the pheromone.' I definitely use this stuff
but it's not for attracting them in the first place but for having wilder
sex.  Note: it's also much more difficult getting away from them... they
don't want to let me leave their bedroom. I'm not a Schwarzenegger
kind of guy, btw.

My Comment: I have to say that I can't remember hearing about anyone using
it for the purpose you mention -- it's usually to get them in the first
place.  Maybe this is a better use of the stuff.

Greg: I have to admit I tried a pheromone cologne a few years back, and had
good results with it once, and only once, and that one time I believed it
was working.  That's the trick right there.  I do believe they have some
instinctive effect, like for example I was talking to this girl a few days
ago who said her boyfriend took her out hunting once while she was on her
period.  She sat out in a field and a buck started toward her with some kind
of look like it was ready to mate.  Of course the BF shot the deer before it
killed her.  Anyway, there may be some truth to pheromones being an
attractant, but with humans and these colognes I really think that the
belief in it effecting your attitude is more
powerful than scent itself if at all.  Most likely we don't sense it near as
well as animals or even any at all.  So my guess is that a good smelling
cologne and the right energy/attitude is MUCH more powerful than these
pheromone gimmicks.  Drakkar has been my favorite so far, and it is
important to have your own scent, something that smells good, and the same
one for the one you're seducing.  Women really do love smelling a man!

Maxin (Commenting on the comments about the website www.whatdowomenwant.com)
where seduction advice for men is given by women):  I was trained by my
mother to be a woman's perfect companion. She did not really try to teach me
this, she just thought about what she wanted in a man and told me how to be
that, under the guise of helping me to understand
women. It works great if you want a woman to fall in love with you, but
takes a while, and they tend to become bored after about 6 months (or
quicker for very hot babes, sometimes as little as 3 weeks) or so and begin
testing you. But women (including my mother) are not going to tell you that
they want a guy that is going to be a puzzle, that they are not going to be
able to rapidly dial into a compartment, because who really admits to liking
games teases and puzzles? Only those people who are very sure of themselves
and know themselves very well. Rick summed it up best when he said
(paraphrased) that women like drama, and if you don't provide it for them,
then they will provide it for you.

Maxin (Commenting on whether to tell women you are seeing other women): The
last two women I have been spending time with I have very quickly
informed them that I was seeing other people. They brought it up in some
way, I can't remember how, but I made sure to set the record straight. With
one of them, I have not slept with her, yet. The other, I had just slept
with. This is the magic bullet», that has been missing in my life. To my
amazement, the one I haven't slept with is more interested, and the one I
have is still interested, this is not what I expected, I had always learned
that most women always demanded mutual monogamy or nothing, and it is
wonderful to realize that I really do make the rules, and they can either
play the game with my rules or go find other players.

Maxin (Commenting on when and where to find women to approach, from Bill's
comment where he was wondering "where the babes are. I went to my local mall
last night. I walked the mile and a quarter from one end to the other. And
then back, I swept a few stores for sales girls. Not much luck."):  I've
isolated the best night for pickups in any given week, for volume, it's
Thursday. Thursday is very often girls night out, it is pre weekend date
time and the women who do not have weekend dates are looking for them, Smart
HB's are available in fewer numbers but higher quality on Wednesday nights
in Bar/restaurant environments. Also, an incredibly powerful strategy that
I've heard discussed, but I am not good at employing is Pre-Noon pickups
(I'm not a morning person, so it's not easy for me) Women love to get
approached in the morning at their coffee/ bagel shops because, when done
correctly they get to think about you all day, and you may even be able to
say something like "I've
got a meeting and have to run, but I'd love it if you could meet me later,
say 4-4:30" and then bam, they're thinking about it all day dreaming up
fantasies and then you come in and sweep them away, very cool.

Maxin (More on finding attractive women, based on the comments made that
even in big cities they can seem scarce):   Use NLP to program your mind to
alert you to the presence of HB's, I did this and then had to turn mine off
because I was constantly being jerked into hunting mode all the time,
they're out there. It's just like when you are car shopping and you decide
what car you want to buy, or buy one, and see the same model of car
everywhere, priming your mind.

Maxin (Commenting on my comment to not be the host in such a way that you
are not seen as available if you throw a party):  Play the Host, Play a
superb Host, play the Host everyone raves about, the host meets everybody,
everyone you invite has an obligation to introduce the people they invited
to the host. Throwing a party is to widen your net, not get too focused on
one guest and nail her that night, done right, you can meet several women,
get several numbers or
get invited to other "parties" that they create to see you again.

Maxin (Commenting on Bill's comments about how he had been working too much
over several years and his main contacts these days are other SS Bros):
Same here, learn to chit chat, talk up women everywhere you go. You don't
have to hit on them, just say "nice shoes", "cool hair" whatever, practice
conversing with women on a regular basis and don't put too much pressure on
yourself to do patterns or get into pattern language a lot, the best ones
out there seem to track me down and drag patterns out of me until they flop
into bed with me (partially an affirmation)

Maxin (Commenting on the comments about how good a woman is in bed, whether
you decide you want to repeat it after the first time or if you find out
only after a few times that it is getting better and that's when you decide
to pursue the relationship):  Women can be real freaks and can decide for
reasons all their own after having sex that you suddenly need to be crammed
into their boyfriend box. Since I don't want this, I keep the jury out until
I've slept with
a woman a couple times. Some women are also not too competent in bed,
especially when you factor in Safe Sex. I get so tired of hearing women
complain about incompetent men, many of them need to take remedial sex
training. Also, women who are neurotic about cleanliness and are impolite
enough to bring it up as a topic over dinner (yes it happened) or at times
prior
to being naked in bed, or shit bring it up at all, drives me nuts. If you
are concerned about it, recommend a nice warm shower or bath, playing with
soap and water is a turn on, and there is nothing more inviting to my tongue
than a very clean pussy. I wish I could tell more women that if they want a
guy to go "down there" making him watch you wash down there is probably the
best recommendation I could make. Not that I need any provocation.

Proteus (Commenting on the concept of going after someone who is involved
with someone else): Consider the difference between a cooperative trance and
a coercive trance.  Both are created by utilizing preexisting trance
mechanisms in the person you are engaging and one is used to help them
satisfy a
secondary criteria while the other is used to help them satisfy a primary
criteria.  Also consider that more often than not a person's unconscious
will eventually sort out the situation and that can be a good time for them
to leverage the other relationships in their life in order to make you pay
for the results of eliciting a response to a secondary criteria that
violates a primary criteria.  Once again, this is not a moral statement,
this is an operational injunction.  Reap what you sow.

My Comment:  I believe strongly in Major Mark's dictum that the woman will
resolve her own dilemmas.  If she's seeing someone else and is really into
that guy, nothing will interfere with that.  If there's a way to get in,
it's because she's not having her needs taken care of.

Chantal: While someone who is charming but not attractive can talk to a girl
so that she will forget about his looks, what you can also do when someone
starts talking to you about something you don't want to talk about is to
make them forget about what they were talking to you about.  If a guy asks
you a question that you don't want to answer, you can make him forget his
subject and totally change the focus of his thinking. Bandler has an amnesia
technique where he changes the topic of conversation and uses a lot of
details of the new subject, which makes the person he's talking to focus on
these details in order to understand what Bandler is talking about.
Consequently, he forgets what he was originally talking about.  As an
example, if you were a maid and you met a lawyer who started to ask you
about your work and you knew that this is not a subject that is going to
make him particularly interested, this is a good technique to get him to
completely forget the subject. By then showing your qualities as a person,
the fact that you have this negative job will then only seem like a small
detail that is not that important. I would like to know if other readers
have similar techniques.
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I thought I might drop you a quick line regarding some of the more popular sites that have been seen within this "seduction community". After seeing several terrible reviews and "flames" from alt.seduction.fast, I decided to make a decision for myself based upon my own ideas of what could be offered on the Seven Magic Words product and after several months of reading great novels about how to attract women and multiple posts about how women are most attracted to men, I STILL found the site to be beneficial. After joining the site, I was happy to learn all the new techniques that I have never seen on any list and that alone made it worth the money. I am not typically the type of person that spends money on a site especially a seduction site, I would rather pay for some audio or video, but the information that was offered was different and unequal to anything I have seen in the past.  At any rate, I know you wanted a review.. and I have actually come to know the owner, and he puts more attention in his members area than I would expect to see from any other site.

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