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Chasing for the heck is fun
Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:11:51 -0500

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Ross:
>You also missed that what I proposed has NOTHING to do with seducing women
>or trying to control them. It has to do with gaining total control (or as
>much as possible) of one's own INTERNAL STATES. Therefore, what you
proposed
>does NOT negate what I proposed. And what I proposed does NOT negate what
>you proposed either.

Maybe there are more flexible ways of gaining control of one's
internal states than insulting other people.
>We can NEVER overemphasize the fact that getting women should be made as
>simple as possible, that men shouldn't make getting women a hard chore but
>something fun!!!- - - - -

In my opinion, you are way off base if you think insulting a woman
a day is going to do anything but reinforce the wrong notion that power
comes from putting others down or in some other way at the expense of
others.
>And why 'One woman a day"? There is a secret. There is a reason/secret why
I
>wanted you to do it with "one woman a day". ONLY THOSE WHO
>ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE METHOD WILL DISCOVER THE "SECRET". Here is the secret:
>When you do it with just ONE woman, you will feel such a rush of
adrenaline,
>you will feel free, freer than ever before, you will notice all this power
>at your disposal that you were never aware you had.

That's only if you are putting too much significance on women in the
first place OR viewing it through a "performance" frame.

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Ebderm (Commenting on "Insult a woman a day"):  It seems to me that it might
be hurtful to some innocent HBs. Targeting someone who is dressed
seductively and seems like a prickteaser does not seem much better to me.
So, through her ignorance she is prickteasing AFC's. She has been taught
that it is part of her rights in the dating game, and knows no better.

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Flyer:
Remember that book by Derek Evans about picking up strippers??? Well,
amazon.com carries the book and there were 8 reviews:

mer-reviews/qid=975282668/sr=1-3/107-1576071-9494105>
most of them unfavorable, but my instinct tells me otherwise. The exotic
dancers who reviewed the book all bad-mouthed it, but they seem like pissed
off man-hater types (as outlined by Evans),who probably don't appreciate
having the secrets revealed.
I think the book is helpful -- as you know, I have been successful in the
past with exotic dancers, and some of the things I did (before I ever read
Evans's book) were congruent with what the author says to do.

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Stephanie (Commenting on her question about whether any of the readers here
are interested in a long term relationship): I now know why I asked you that
question. I am afraid that I will never get past the chase and actually take
the plunge into real intimacy. I live for the chase.

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Brother Bob:
My comments to Stephanie below regarding her following comment:
Stephanie wrote::
> Do any of the men who subscribe to your seduction newsletter get women
they
> love and keep them for a lifetime? Is that what they are looking for or
is
> it just about the thrill of the chase?
>
> My Comment: Believe it or not there are married men and women on my list
who
> aren't looking for new conquests. In fact, a friend of mine here in
Montreal
> and his wife read my emails and have been intrigued to find ways to
improve
> their already great relationship. Major Mark, who you may have read about
on
> my list and who teaches in the Speed Seduction» seminars, has been married
> now for a couple of years and that looks like it's pretty solid.
Personally,
> I have always felt that when the right woman will come along, I would
have
> no choice. Nothing else would appeal, nothing else would hold any
interest.
> But until then....

Stephanie,

I came into SS to find a way to "seduce" my wife. We have since been
divorced but my goal was to find any way possible to save it. She just does
not have the mental faculties to support romance....
I have since incorporated the precepts of SS into who I am and every single
person I come into contact with responds to me positively. I don't mean in a
sexual manner but just the fact that what I learned is to pay attention to
the right things and communicate with them in a manner that THEY need. It
sure makes it easy to carry on a meaningful exchange with someone!
I am in search of 'that one girl' and when she comes to me and shows me that
she can offer me everything that any other woman possibly could, she gets
the
prize and I will be giving to her everything that any man possibly could. I
know that when I find that person, I'll have my hands full for the next 100
years or so! I can honestly say that I quickly grew weary of people
'chasing'
me so it's definitely NOT about that for me..... but until she shows up, I
will
be searching and developing meaningful friendships that may blossom into
affairs or, simply stay close as friends. To this day, THAT particular
aspect has been MY choice.... I am up front and honest about what I seek and
make no
apologies for it... If I don't think a person measures up, they do not get
past
the 'friend' stage..... and some people I've met are wonderful friends!

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Don:
I wonder if you might have any thoughts on the best way to invite a woman
back to your place during your first romantic date, the date when you throw
down a goodly amount of dollars at a romantic restaurant, the date where the
sexual thing is supposed to happen.
This invitation, it would seem to me, would be different than an invitation
given to some brawd one has just met a club. because in this situation, you
and she have gone out probably twice, and you're both into each other (or at
least she's into letting you spend money on her). So in this situation, it
would seem the unspoken expectation is that the two of you will have sex,
and with the standard, it seems, now being that you have sex by the third
date or you move on, both of you will be aware of this expectation.  So what
would still be the best approach, might you think? Still to offer her the
chaste appearance and suggest that you two go back to your place for a drink
or to look at a photo album or to watch a movie, or simply to be more direct
about it? I'd be especially interested in hearing from people who have
pondered this issue and taken action on it.

My Comment:  You are coming from the "dating frame" here and will get what
you expect.  By following the traditional dating process, you put sex on a
pedestal and hand the controls over to the woman.  Wouldn't it be much
better to create states of curiosity, excitement, arousal, etc. and let that
lead to it's inevitable conclusion?

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TGB1010011010:
> Stephanie:
> Do any of the men who subscribe to your seduction newsletter get
> women they
> love and keep them for a lifetime? Is that what they are looking for or
is
> it just about the thrill of the chase?

However thrilling the chase, it is the booty that makes it worth it. The
expectation of a happier, healthier outcome. Presuppose. We all know that
chasing for the heck is fun and exciting to do but it is character that I
value higher. Getting to know an HB that has it is more fulfilling than
bulbs on the chest and shiny underwear (again, I said mostly). I prefer
quality rather than quantity in mabuna (many but not all) aspects of my
life. Accursed those who eagerly build then break. It makes my brain coarse
and I can hardly understand that. I do need the respect and caring I
deserve.
When I get a call from someone I knew once and feel remembered that is
pepper on my steak as it is on yours. Pepper is no meat. If you are into
~*-people-*~ I think you will understand I am constantly looking for people
I can share greater vectors in space-time with and gain and give good.
Tell me if I err, Angel from beyond the stars, it's love I am seeking.
Speaking of respect, I have a question concerning something worse than
phone-blurring: I am stumbling over people who I once met and they behave
like it's a shame to know me. I think this is a matter of these lasses'
limited self-respect (and mine, heh) but I need to develop a rather subtle
routine because that's no advertisement for me and it seems I'm missing out
on several challenges. Any ideas how to reinforce respect from people who
could think they know me either?
Would I have to call a number I asked for? (Would I write it down on paper?)
Now for something completely different.
I am eager to get some beyond the curtains information on our PUA-Popes and
ponies. I use a self-hypnotic script and here is a sketch (not
too concise):
I the person get whatever I desire just for the asking. Thereby I am free
and able to perform any situation I face to meet, equal, exceed or fail the
best of my intentions. I am afflicted with a striving for excellence, not
perfection, that drives me to outperform myself in many a new situation anew
and anew. My ultimate goal is to communicate in a way that allows my home
planet to express more bliss. I am to bring congruency to life because mine
is existence. I being the center of my known. I know that I must receive the
wordy feedback of voice and the even subtler one of space as it's unknown to
me what lies before me in time. I bring happiness to time.
I know I have to reach (out) the help(seek)ing hand whenever it's needed! I
get to be in tune with inner and outer forces of body, matter and mind. I am
boldly finding reality out of information. I face people conscient of them
and mine. I am Now.

I am singing that tune. I like to sing. Of heaven and sky and birds and
songs and flowers and bees and honey and grass and water - of life. Life is
my joy and I hesitate not to live it until I breathe no more. (Breathe
+++--. +++++ ----- +++++ --__ +++++++: )
That's it, I'm drugged out.
P.S.: +++++++

My Comment:  Well, I am glad we got that all cleared up.

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