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Help Needed (I’m serious!)
3/2/01 12:39:01 PM Eastern Standard Time


HELP SECTION:  Well, I think I have finally solved my computer virus and
email problems but it has resulted in my having to delete all my previous
emails (well, they are saved but inaccessible, which leads to the cry for
help below)and work through a different email address
(cli***[email protected]***.com[ ? ]).  That address is about 99% certain to change so
please keep using the cli***[email protected]***.com[ ? ] address instead which will remain
constant.  It isn't necessary to use the cli***[email protected]***.com[ ? ] address (which
will also remain good) unless you are on AOL or some other service which has
had problems sending emails to me at the cli***[email protected]***.com[ ? ] address.

HELP: I apparently forgot to copy and save the next email I was preparing to
send out here and it is locked in a saved dbx file.  If anyone could help me
to open that file (preferably without having to reload the emails back into
my current Outlook Express folders) so that I can copy and paste the
information, that would be greatly appreciated.  If you had sent some
comments to me and they did not appear, please resend those comments and
they will appear in the next email I send out.


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Thanks to Formhandle (who has a great site that you should visit at and Kenny of Dating Insider
( for their recent plugs of this email
newsletter which has resulted in a number of new subscribers lately.


Dwayne (Check out his website at
I had intentions of running some patterns on (models) during the session but
it was difficult trying to think of weasel phrases and the such while also
paying attention to lighting, setting and etc...
Anyone have any SS patterns that are based on "posing for the camera" and
the like?

Elroy suggested to Dwayne that he might want to address this question to
Clifford's list, and Lew Payne in particular.  Lew is currently working with
websites like Persian Kitty and helping them develop their own content.  By
his admission, he uses NLP and SS to get the models to give it to him.

My Comment:  So how about it, guys?  Lew?


All of the animals except for man know that the principle business of
life is to enjoy it. -- Samuel Butler


Happy days, Bro. Got my ex by the balls. Monday I called and left
a special pattern on her office vmail. 24 hours later I sent her Bishop's
Warm Fuzzy with a tag from another chick basically telling me
she wanted to jump my bones. She went insane. I told her that
it was odd that she felt she deserved my full undivided anymore
and we agreed we hated each other and hung up! Yesterday I called
her to apologize : )  and left a post hypnotic suggestion to feel
that emptiness and pain of that "forever" loss growing blah blah
and asked her if she had listened to my message from Monday 'cause
I wanted her input for the book I am writing. She said she had saved it and
would call from home last nite and give it a listen. This morning
I have gotten 4 frantic emails from her begging me to calm her
"hopes and fears". haw haw haw! Such a little stinker! I'm gonna
let her simmer for a while.

Disconnected with my little shooter girl last nite but she invited
me out tomorrow nite instead. Don't know what happened to the boyfriend? The
online thing is still chugging along. I'm amazed
at how many hot chicks are parked on that thing! I've got a pretty
good system now for reframing them before I send a pic. Most of
these girls are looking for perfection and that ain't me.
Below is the note that I hit them with off the bat then follow
up with the "hot guy" pattern. Haven't lost one yet with this
approach after seeing my pic....before that I had about a 40%
success rate!  Here is part of the exchange for you:

GM: HI Sandy, if that's your real name? I don't think we've been
properly introduced yet. Well shucks, the time ran out on that offer of a
pic. Don't you just hate that? Guys are funny with all this elapsed time
thing we thrive on. I mean hell, I don't even understand time yet and I'm
not really sure it even exists but somehow it manages to elapse itself
anyway but it's like someone has to start the timer....of this thing that
doesn't exist.
Am I makin' any sense? I mean there's like the things you know,
and then there's the things you don't know, and THEN there's the things you
don't know you know.
So it's like when the things you know become the things you don't
know you know, well you sort of get all jumbled up, and a little confused.
You know?
And I AM writing a book, but prolly not about what you think. It's
titled "A --MA-S D---R-".  Cancer's are intuitive. Solve the puzzle and I'll
take you to the Tower Club for dinner.
OK Sandy, I think you are charming as well. And you have a great
wit and I can tell you are a marvelous communicator. That's the kind of
thing you can really appreciate and value in a person you know? So, if
you're the kind of woman who can decide for herself when she meets someone
that she finds interesting....well I don't know. Are you the type of woman
who would just throw caution to the wind and go for it, or would you just
let it happen naturally?

Sandy: Hey and yes its Sandy. I'm real under the weather today
because I pulled a disc or muscle in my lower back yesterday. It really
hurts and I can barely get around and since you know so much about Cancer
signs you know I'm hating not being able to take care of it all. I am
working on the phone all day calling customers but it's not the same.
You are definitely avoiding sending the picture-why? And you can't tell
me how someone looks isn't important to you either. Come on-cowboy up and
send it! Gotta go and you are long winded on the "things you know" And I
don't know the name of your book but I'm sure it will be awesome. Bye

GM: Hey
Sandy, how's the back today...any better?

Sandy: I'm still poking around but I was able to work today after the chiro
visit and icepack on it last night. Thanks for asking.  Who's your chiro?
Mine's awesome-I don't know what I would've done without him. I hugged his
neck. I joined the silly mm thing so you can send me a picture now, right?
Talk at cha later.

GM: OK OK, I'll send the pic when I get home Saturday. I'm out of town
this week. But can I ask you a question, and this prolly just
goes under the header of the dif between men and women, so how
come I have to send you one, when I don't get one in return? My
impression of this "process" is that it's supposed to be reciprocal. Fair
question? And the reason I asked that particular Q is that
I think a lot of people doing this online thing really miss out
on some really interesting new opportunities to add some new
friends to the fold that add value to their lives because of this
whole romance thing. So if a person were to develop an absolutely
fascinating dialogue with someone and they had this wonderful
rapport established, then one or both saw a pic of the other and
instantly wrote that person off as both a potential partner and
FRIEND because of something that shallow? Am I making any sense
here? And I'm not saying you're that type of person but I get the
feeling that kind of thing happens a lot. I mean, I know people
and have some friends that shouldn't be allowed out in public
ya know but they're still my friends and they're a lot of fun
to hang out with. And you've probably had the same experience
where you've got a circle of friends that just adore being
in your company, cause you're so vivacious-right? And I'll
bet more than a couple of these people fall into that category
too. I'm's that book thing again-sorry! : )~
But I'm interested to know your opinion on all this cause
I sorta like the way your brain works.

(GameMaster continues on online dating»):
This online thing is absolutely fascinating, what a great way to scope out
the psyche's of  this new breed of woman. I'm learning more and more every
day but to be honest, I've only met one chick on there, she
was hot, and now she has disappeared? You never know what will
send them running i.e. a couple of girls have expressed a strong
interest in a particular subject....I articulate said subject
back to them and they BOLT! What's wrong with these fuckin' chiks?
One in my city that is fucking the bomb who went nuts when I
sent her my pic cause she's seen me before flat out told me this
morning that even though she was totally intrigued that she could
never bring herself to meet anyone face to face that she met online!
OK, so I'm still pacing and leading with her and she knows where
I hang out now so maybe she has other plans?

Anyway, think I'm gonna settle down with my new GF and my
new stripper...she's 24 and may be the prettiest girl inside and
out I've ever met. And a fuckin' Capricorn to boot! Must be my
curse or something but I have found them to be extraordinary
sex partners with amazing skill and they all have oversized labia-
now that's something for your sisters to have in common!


I was searching the web and came across this site about improving sales (I'm
in a sales program) and discovered  after
searching thru it a while, I linked to something called the Alexander
Technique.  Have you ever heard of this?

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One of the best places for you to start your journey on becoming more successful with women would be to get David DeAngelo’s Double Your Dating» e-book.  David (who posts here under the name "Sisonpyh" — which is "hypnosis" spelled backwards) is a good friend that I have known for several years now that I originally met through one of Ross’ Speed Seduction» seminars.  His posts here have been among the most outstanding contributions I have had over the years and his book (and the free bonuses) is highly recommended.

Ron Louis and David Copeland have been reading these emails for awhile and recently sent me their Mastery Program Tape series which I have finished listening to. It has some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help. For those who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set of tapes.

Comments on this product from Tony B.:
I thought I might drop you a quick line regarding some of the more popular sites that have been seen within this "seduction community". After seeing several terrible reviews and "flames" from, I decided to make a decision for myself based upon my own ideas of what could be offered on the Seven Magic Words product and after several months of reading great novels about how to attract women and multiple posts about how women are most attracted to men, I STILL found the site to be beneficial. After joining the site, I was happy to learn all the new techniques that I have never seen on any list and that alone made it worth the money. I am not typically the type of person that spends money on a site especially a seduction site, I would rather pay for some audio or video, but the information that was offered was different and unequal to anything I have seen in the past.  At any rate, I know you wanted a review.. and I have actually come to know the owner, and he puts more attention in his members area than I would expect to see from any other site.

Not only does this next site give you an unconditional 1 year no risk money back guarantee, but it stands alone and it’s program is unmatched. Right now they’re doing a Free Trial period, and I’d take advantage of this while you can. The site reads "Learn the proven secrets for meeting, attracting, and seducing women. From A – Z, you’ll discover the most advanced techniques for picking up women ever developed." Check out their Free Trial (before it ends) and you’ll see why their members like this program so much.


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Advanced Macking has one of the most enticing websites. An updated review would also be welcome.

This one also looked pretty interesting. Information on breakups and loving-styles.

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A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write hypnotic language to make others obey your command.

Arte’s New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman’s g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend – but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully.

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