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This is my first post to this list. I have posted this sarge on the SS list,
but I am posting it again on this list because I am sure there are many of
who are not on the SS list. Please read and critique it. At the end I have a
question about bisexual women. If any of you guys are well skilled when it
comes to threesomes, then maybe you can some good advice on what I should
do( Rick?)

Last night I decided to go to Barnes & Noble to do a little sarging. I
spotted a beautiful brunet-long black hair, piercing black eyes, and a body
to die for, e.g. the tight top under her jacket revealed her naturally large
breasts, and her short skirt revealed her beautiful long legs.  So I went up
to her and asked her for the time, then I asked her "What would you say if I
were to ask you for some of your handwriting?"

HER: Sure, what do you want me to write?
ME:  I want you to write  'I can imagine my ideal vacation spot and what it
would be like to be happy and playful'.

At this point she proceeds to give me a handwriting sample.

HER: What is the purpose of me writing this for you?
ME: I analyze people's handwriting and from their handwriting I can tell how
they process information in their mind.
HER: Cool, I am a psychology student.
ME: Do you enjoy studying psychology?
HER: I love it.
ME: What do you find most fulfilling about studying psychology?
HER: That I can learn about people.
ME: That's vague. Each and every one of us is learning about people
everyday, but it's not necessarily fulfilling. So, if I were to ask you,
sort of learning about people do you find fulfilling?
HER: Good question. I guess the kind of learning that I find most fulfilling
is the kind that allows me to learn about myself.
ME: I think that is so true. It is amazing what we can learn about ourselves
through other people. Some of the stuff we learn about people is trivial
while other stuff has a real impact on us. So if I were to ask you...what
sort of things do you find yourself valuing as being the most important when
it comes to learning about yourself through learning about other people?
HER: Wow! Another really good question. I guess it's when I can be with
who can "challenge" my intellect, yet "respects" the person I am. If a guy
isn't on my intellectual plain, I will step all over him.
ME: Cool.  Write the words 'challenge' and 'respect'...And returning to your
ideal vacation spot.
HER: Yes?
ME: Where would it be?
HER:  Hawaii.

I then proceed by asking her to describe it to me. The way she described it
was vague yet descriptive, so I ask her if she writes. She tells me that she
used to but stopped. I ask her why she stopped and she says that she has
been very busy but wants to get back into it.

ME: Well, I am a writer too...I was wondering if you write more like Emily
Dickens - that is, the style of writing, which is brief and concise, and
conveys pearls of wisdom - or more like Walt Whitman who writes more flowery
and mesmerizes his readers with his descriptions. (At this point, I am
trying to figure out how she thinks).

She says both, but leans on being descriptive. Now I know that she is a
small chunk thinker that likes flowery descriptive language. I also find out
from her description of her ideal vacation spot that her primary way of
processing information is visual. At this point I lead her over to a bench
in the bookstore. I ask her what she finds most fulfilling about writing.

HER: When I write I can escape the ordinary responsibilities of life. It's
that place of "fantasy", that place where anything is possible. It is that
place where I can be "the real me."
ME: Yeah, I know what you mean. Did you like amusement parks a little kid?
HER: Yeah, I did.
ME: With me, I always liked Disneyland. It was a magical place of mystery,
wonder, and excitement where a person could escape from the responsibilities
of ordinary life to this (SP) special place where they could allow
themselves the permission to let their little girl fantasies run wild.
HER: Yeah, I know what you mean. It is sad that many adults loose the
to look at the world in this way.
ME: Yeah, little kids have this wonder and naiveté about the world that
them so wise.
HER: It's like little kids notice so many things that adults don't see. This
is because they are so "open-minded." I guess with age you become more
closed-minded. You lose the ability to see the fantasy in the world.
ME: It's like we can "learn" so much from little kids about ourselves. They
can teach us how to see the "fantasy" in the world again. Have you ever
thought about the difference between fantasy and reality?
HER: I think that there really is no difference. I think that little kids
just have the ability to see the "fantasy" in the world. Many adults sadly
lose this ability.
ME: I agree, so if I were to ask you to give me an example of how adults
lose this ability, what might you tell me?
HER: Adults think too much. They lose the ability to live in the moment.
Little kids can just act on their fantasies.
ME: Do you live in the moment?
HER: I try to
ME: Well, you strike me as the type of girl who is smart enough that if you
saw a fantasy that you desired, a window (SP) of opportunity right in front
of you, you wouldn't let it pass you by.  Instead you would allow yourself
the permission to learn from this fantasy, this adventure, just how much you
can live life in the moment. And the more a person allows this fantasy (SP)
to consume them, the more they can feel those waves of happiness moving
through their body. Can you feel that as being true about you (anchor on

At this point she is starting to trance out. So I deliberately begin to
fractionate by taking her out of trance. I do this by changing the subject.

ME: So to return the rest of the analysis, I need to find out what you value
most in a relationship. You have already told me both that you want someone
who challenges your intellect, and some who respects you. So, if I were to
ask you 'what does a person have to do for there to be respect in a
relationship?' what might you tell me?
HER: They have to listen. A person has to listen to what I have to say.
ME: I think listening is an important aspect of a relationship. However, a
person might intellectually assimilate every word you say, yet not be
empathetic. They might not have the ability to put themselves in the other
person's shoes.
HER: Exactly, for there to be respect in a relationship, there has to be
compassion. There has to be an emotional connection between two people.
ME: Yeah, there has to be a bond. Have you ever just met someone and felt
that bond?
HER:  Yeah, that emotional connection.
ME: And as you begin to feel so comfortable with that person (SP), you begin
to listen to that voice on the inside that says "This is someone who I am
already beginning to trust." And it's like even though you just met them, it
seems like you have known them your whole life, almost like a timeless
connection. And it's like if a person is really sensitive, maybe they can
feel a heat or an energy between them and the other person.
HER: Yes, I have felt that energy before with people. I know exactly what
are talking about.
ME: Cool, if I were to ask you to take a deep breadth, and close your
eyes....what color do you associate with that feeling?
HER: Yellow
ME: Cool.  Open your eyes and notice how that yellow, those feelings, can
into a cord of light going from you to them (sp). And notice how it's only
when you have this chord of light that you can emotionally connect to
someone. Maybe you can even imagine this chord of yellow light as a portal
for two people (gesture from me to her) to communicate their emotions
nonverbally to one another.
HER:  That is so cool. I have this feeling with one of my close girlfriends.
Even when we are not in the presence of each other, we are able to
emotionally connect. She's also one of those people that challenges my
ME: Are you involved with her?
HER: What do you mean 'involved with her'?
ME: Do you have a relationship with her?
HER:  Um... yeah, were friends?
ME: No, I meant do have a sexual relationship with her?
HER: (smiling really big and kind of giggling) No, I don't go that way. What
made you think that I was bisexual?
ME: You exude a very sexually adventurous energy.

The real reason I asked her this is because this "girlfriend of hers" seemed
to fill all of her core values.

HER: (more giggles) I am not bisexual.
ME: The second value you gave in a relationship is someone who challenges
your intellect. But I have a feeling you like someone who can challenge you
in general.
HER:  Yeah, but I hate bullies; the type of guys that make me submit.
ME: Have you ever thought about the difference between submitting and
HER: No, I am not even sure I know the difference.
ME: You see submitting is when a person is coerced into doing something, but
surrendering is different. For example, have you ever been reading a story
a fairytale that you can really learn from, and as you begin to focus on
this story, the rest of the environment begins to fade away. And this
fairytale begins to consume you to the point where your entire world becomes
this (SP) fantasy right in front of you. And if you are the type of person
that can live in the moment, then you might allow yourself the opportunity
to surrender to this (SP) fantasy in this very moment.

She tells me how she has felt that before with a song she likes. She tells
me how she is able to lose herself to the song, and be in the moment.

ME: What's another value that is important to you in a relationship?
HER: Romance. I know it sounds cheesy but I love romance. Most of the guys I
have been with in the past were not romantic.

From here I went into something that I have dubbed "The locket and the key".

                                  The Locket and the Key

ME:  It so interesting. I was talking to my friend Jennifer, and she was
saying that women put guys in three different categories. There are the guys
you are just friends with and that's kind of a neutral category. Then there
are the guys that communicate with you in a way that you put them in that
place in your mind where you think about tasks that you want to get out of
the way. And it's like once you put a guy in that part of your mind it
mean jack shit what he does; he can beg, he can plea, but it doesn't mean
jack shit. However, there is that other kind of guy that you think about
differently - maybe romantically. And it's like that person's actions, their
words have affected you in such a way that maybe you begin to think of this
person begin to put this person in that special place in
your mine.  It's like that place in your mind where you keep all your most
pleasurable experiences, that place where you ponder your most amazing know that place?...When a person begins to touch you in that
way it has a different effect on you...doesn't it?

HER: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean

ME:  My friend Jennifer has an interesting way of describing it. She says
it's like
there is a locket deep inside your heart. But this is no ordinary locket.
This locket is the source to all the pleasure you have ever experienced, and
all the pleasure you ever will experience. It's that place where you keep
your most intimate fantasies, desires, and unlimited possibilities. And
there are all these different keys that try to open up this locket. And
these keys are symbolic of different personalities. And even though none of
these different keys fit this locket, their caress on the outside still
feels really pleasurable. Even though this is a good feeling you might
become a little sad and start to notice how this locket is yearning on the
inside to be opened up by that special key. And then, one day you meet
this (sp) special someone who challenges your intellect. They are the type
of person you are able to learn about yourself from learning from them. The
sort of person that can see the fantasy world that everyone else is closed
off to. And the more you are around him, the more and you begin to get feel
that emotional connection between you and him. You can feel those
butterflies on the inside beginning to spread to the point where maybe you
begin to realize that this is that special key, and you hear this voice deep
inside your heart saying "Yes...I want to open up this locket, and share all
those special feelings with this special someone.  And as you begin to allow
this person to cum deep inside this begin to realize that this
is no ordinary locket. While ordinary lockets have pictures, which are
memories of something special, this locket is different. When someone opens
up that locket deep inside your heart with that special key, not only do you
have a picture of this (sp) person inside that locket, but their voice and
their touch are present on the inside of that locket that's deep inside your
heart (anchor on chest).

At this point she becomes a little teary eyed.

HER: I have never felt that with a person before. I have always wanted to.
ME: Lets return to what you value most in a relationship. You were telling
me that romance is important. If I were to ask you 'what is romantic to
what might you tell me?
HER: It's not the big things; it's the little things.
ME: What sort of things?
HER: Like doing something unexpectedly.
ME: Have you ever had a person give you a surprise kiss?

I describe the process of a person receiving a surprise kiss, and then talk
about how that kiss can be a doorway into that fantasy world that is a great
escape from ordinary life. She goes into a deep trance. Meanwhile, I am
her palm to this experience. Then I ask her if it feels good to have those
feelings. She says yes. So I ask her to have all those feeling without the
experience. I anchor it in the same place. I zip the anchor up having the
feelings get more intense. Next I repeat the same process using the
experience of anticipating that first kiss. Then I test the anchors by
firing them off and asking her if she can feel those feelings. She ratifies

ME: Close your eyes, and give a color to those feelings.
HER: Blue
ME: Now notice how those feelings can turn into a ball of blue energy. And
as that ball of energy begins to move up your arm, you can notice how those
feelings either double or become ten times more intense.

When I reached the halfway point on her upper arm, I asked her how good that
felt on a scale of 1-10. She said 9.  Then I had the blue ball of energy
move all through her body. I told her that when the blue ball of energy had
moved all through her body and when she felt like she was going to explode
with pleasure, I wanted her to make a fist around my finger. I did this to
calibrate her response. As soon as she made a fist I had the energy expand
into me yada yada yada expanding it all through the whole universe and told
her how her ecstasy was holding the universe together. At this point, her
fist was getting even tighter.

ME: Even though you might feel a yearning to have all those feelings come
rushing through you again, all you have to do to feel all those feelings
come rushing through you again is hear that voice on the inside, say the
word "permission"...permission...permission.

Each time I said this word her fist would get tighter, and her arm would

ME: You can open your eyes...If I were to tell you that your pleasure goes
beyond the 1-10 scale, how good did that feel.
HER: Oh my God, that was so weird. You read my mind. I feel infinitely
ME: Cool
HER: I know this is going to seem odd, but are you bisexual? I ask this
because your voice is very soft and you also seem sexually adventurous.
ME: No

From here I went into Ricky's stuff about the Yin and Yang, and how two
dominant energies are not compatible together, yet two nurturing energies
are. I went on to tell her how bisexuality among women is natural.

HER: There is something I must confess to you
ME: What?
HER: You're right. I am bisexual. The last person I dated was a girl.
ME: Do you prefer kissing guys or girls?
HER: It depends on the person, but generally speaking, I like kissing girls
more. See, girls are more process orientated, while men are goal orientated.
ME:  Can you tell if someone is a good kisser before you kiss them?
HER:  Yes, I can tell by a person's energy and by the way people talk.
ME: So how do you think I kiss?
HER: You seem like you would be a good kisser from your energy and the way
you describe things.

Next someone announces that the bookstore is closing.

ME: Wasn't that fun talking?
HER:  Yeah
ME: What steps would we have to take to continue this at a later time?
HER: I could give you my number.

At this point we make plans to get together and share some of our poetry
with each other.

HER: Can you walk me to my car?
ME: Sure, but my car is in the opposite direction. Tell you what, I will
walk you to your car, if you drive me to my car.
HER:  Sounds like a deal

We leave the bookstore, find her car and get in. She started showing me her
CD's and playing different music for me. Then she asked me if I liked New
music. I asked her what she meant.

HER: Have you ever heard of 'Enigma'?
ME:  Yeah
HER: I love their music; it is very sexual.

She then starts playing the Enigma CD. From here I did a pattern very
similar to Orion's energy massage, which incorporated all of her colors and
trance words. At the end of the massage I started tickling the back of her
neck, and telling her how sensitive the back of the neck is as I began
kissing the back of her neck. Five minutes later I was tickling her clit
with my finger. She was very wet, and had a nice firm clitoral erection.
Before she went into orgasm, I told her to make love to me. She looked me in
the eyes and said "Baby, you bring out the bad girl in me, we have only
known each other for a couple of hours (actually I had met her forty minutes
ago. I guess good time distortion on my part).

ME: Are you going to let social norms deter you from acting on this moment,
or are you adventurous enough to live this fantasy, with me, you
strike me as the type of girl who is bright enough to chose the latter.

I then rolled back onto my seat. Faster than I could count to ten, she gets
on top of me, pulls Mr. Willy out of my pants and we start going at it.

After the fun was over we sat and talked in her car. She told me how she
thought I was really something and that she had never been with someone like
me. We then talked about threesomes. She mentioned that she had been in a
few. I suggested that the next time we get together, we should pick up a hot
girl and have a threesome. She said that she was open to the idea, but
needed to know me a little better. So my question to Ross, Rick, or any
advanced brother, is how can I convince her, the next time we go out, to
pick up on some girl and take her home with us?


>I had replied to a newspaper personal ad with an NLP response. That
>generated a phone call and we spoke for over an hour... ending with us
>planning a tentative date.

I think talking that long on the phone is a MISTAKE. I think
talking enough to generate interest for a quick meeting ASAP is the
best way to go; Riker calls it "ramping" and I am inclined to agree.

And..there is NO sex in the champagne room and NO SUCH THING AS
'tentative" dates. You either have a precise, agreed upon meeting or
you've got goat-shit. Point, set, match. Etc.
> Before the date, she sent an email saying she
>"didn't really feel a connection" and was calling off the date. My response
>was to send her the following reply to her email. Will wait to see how/if
>she responds:

Hi Monica

Got your email. All I can say is if you want to prejudge your own
opportunities based on the way you are USED to reacting and
responding with men...maybe I'm not the one who loses from that. You
STRUCK me as a person who would SEE an opportunity....and TAKE it. Oh
well..ta ta


Hypno Bill:
>> Ebderm:
>> >Hypno Bill:
>> >... have read "What the hell do women really want."
>> >... women want powerful men....
>> I ask you, have you seen the movie "Titanic"?
>> Why did Rose choose to die for penniless Jack
>> and dump her rich, powerful, handsome, fiancé,
>> who bought her the world's biggest diamond?
>> Answer:
>> The character Jack was 1) fun, 2) exciting, and
>> 3) he was able to connect her on a deeper level.
>> However, in the real world, women often seem to prefer
>> jerks, who do not supply #3 above.
>> Somebody, please explain.
>It's not that these men are jerks, it's that they provide her with 1 and 2.
>All 3 are not necessary for a short term relationship. It's been my
>experience that a lot of women are involved in relationships that provide
>none of these characteristics.
>I think the appeal of bad boys is the appeal of a challenge. Most
>attractive women have no challenges in their life socially. They want to
feel that
>they personally have accomplished something by winning the bad boy.
>Look at your life, have there ever been any women that you were attracted
>to where it just seemed too easy. They were so into you that you just felt
>the longing for something more. It's a stage that we all go through when we
>are exploring our sexual influence over the world. BUT everything I say is
>a lie.

Powerful men appeal to the subconscious programming of biology. Women want
a man who can take care of them and protect them as well as their offspring.
That is why the Jerks have a lot of success with women. Jerks do not put up
with crap. Jerks don't take crap from women, so they pass the tests that
women give them. Jerks are seen as powerful, the opposite of a wimp Nice
Guy. Nice Guys put up with women's crap. Women conclude if they put up with
their crap then how will the Nice Guy be able to protect her? This has to do
with our instincts for survival of the species. I believe that SS works
because it gives a woman strong responses. The SS'er must be a powerful guy
because he is able to give her powerful feelings. He has a powerful affect
on her. Remember in society the powerful men are the ones who know language.
They are the ones who make money, who get what they want.

As to a challenge, that is the normal definition. If however I were to look
deeper into it, I would conclude that a challenge is the scarcity principal.
It is valuable because it is scarce. Obviously women must compete for
desirable (powerful) men because the desirable man can choose anyone he
wants. If he is not a challenge then he is not desirable. This also is
related to biology, because a woman is programmed to want a man to protect
her and her offspring. If he is easy then he will not stick around for her
offspring. He will always be off looking for other women. If she has to win
him he will be more likely to stick around. This is another reason women
test men. If a guy boots out right away he will not stick around and help
with the offspring. If he persists then he will stick around and she then
allows him to mate her. This makes me think of the recent fractionation
posts on the SS list. Fractionating her to build the number of events that
prove he will stick around.

This all occurs at the deepest levels of the mind completely out of the
awareness of women. So even if a woman is looking for a one night stand and
not looking to have offspring. The deepest levels of biological programming
are still there guiding her in her choice.


Brother Marcus:
Hey, Cliff! A couple of things: I didn't say the stuff attributed to me
below, I don't  think. Nope, I'm positive. Years ago I was that
Machiavellian, but it's written too directly for it to be my words. I
meander and digress much more than this. ;)
> >Brother Marcus
> >What you need to do here rapport, discover what she really
> >wants, demonstrate by, the very nature of who you are, you have the
> ultimate
> >ability to give it to her, then don't. Furthermore, never give direct
> >answers unless the answer is no.

Secondly, I have a response to this bit:
> Bucky:
> Lately I've been talking to lots of chicks and I'm getting
> quite skilled at pure SS techniques such as patterning, themes, building
> connection, rapport, etc.  But I have not yet been able to close the deal
> yet. I believe it's because I don't manifest that "I'm the prize"
> You've talked in the past about how attitude is one of the most important
> things. Any advice on how I can manifest that attitude.

Well, a quantum leap occurred for me in the whole "I'm the prize" department
once I adopted a simple rule: I NEVER have a second contact with an HB
without having sarged someone else in the interim. If I get a phone number,
I do another walk-up (or two, or ten) before I call her. If we make
arrangements to meet for coffee, I make for DAMN sure I've made appointments
with others by the time we meet. The results have been much more fun for me,
whether I close the deal or not. Come to think of it, that's probably the
crux of it right there. One gets to create an environment where it's just
true that you have options. How to believe it? Make it so!

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