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Her physical being will be at the command of a stranger
7/24/01 6:19:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time


"The truth shall set you free."  We've all heard this many times over.  But
lately I have started to realize that these few words hold tremendous power.
Someone who can be totally, truly honest at a profound level is someone who
is extremely interesting to talk to and consequently becomes a very
attractive individual.  To speak the truth with great depth takes courage,
confidence and an intelligence that communicates itself with great
magnetism.  Another (related) comment I have always in the back of my mind
is "How do you get anything you want in life?  Just ask."  I think that one
of the simple secrets of being more successful with women is to be able to
be direct, straightforward, brutally honest and solid in standing tall and
having the courage of your convictions to do this clearly and without
hesitation.  This kind of confidence is like a drug to women, and people in

After writing the above I had a great telephone call with Mark who
attributes a lot of his success to his being very direct and telling women
immediately that he finds them attractive and that he wants to have a
romantic relationship with them. Comments?


Ross "Faggot-Shit Master" Jeffries:

Lately, I have spotted an alarming trend on this list.

Perhaps in an effort to distinguish themselves from Speed Seduction»(R) for
marketing purposes,  or perhaps for other reasons some of the "experts" on
this list have been advocating what I can only call a "dumbed-down" means
of dealing with women.

You can usually distinguish these guys by their use of extremes like "never
say "yes" to a woman" or "a woman will always test you".

It's almost as if their entire strategy is re-active and re-sponsive,
relying on waiting in anticipation for a woman's "game" and then
automatically doing the opposite of what she wants.

Or they advocate that you withhold constantly.

What they NEVER advocate is to carefully look at the UNIQUE individual
person in front of you, and use some INTELLIGENT TOOLS to see what SHE
might uniquely respond to! And none of them even discuss using your
intelligence to demonstrate to a woman that you uniquely understand her world!

Now, maybe what they advise works for THEM. I can tell you, without giving
too much away, that one of the "experts" on this list (who engages in some
not so subtle put downs of MY stuff) isn't telling you that he is extremely
good looking (this isn't just my opinion, but the opinion of women I know
who have met him). He also lives in a huge party mansion on in an exclusive
neighborhood of Los Angeles, drives a very expensive and flashy car, and
has all the external things women want.

Hey, if ***I*** had all those advantages, I wouldn't need to use language
patterns, rapport, anchoring or anything else either.

Look - listening to the advice of an extremely good-looking, wealthy-living
guy about getting women is like asking a 6 foot 10, 350 lb. muscle-man how
HE wins bar-fights.  "I just hit em' once. Forget about that faggot
kung-fu/Bruce Lee stuff. Just hit 'em once, and they fold."

For us guys who have to go through life without such advantages, let me
suggest strongly that "that faggot shit" could well be what makes the
difference between dry humping Ma-Palm and moist, pink abundance.

Now, at the heart of what some "experts" call  "faggot shit" is what I call
applied INTELLIGENCE. That's right. Being smart about things...and by this
I mean, SEEING THE PRINCIPLES that make the actual small steps effective.

In almost any kind of game where the other side has more raw power than
you, it is INTELLIGENCE properly applied to the subject hand that will win
the day.

So let me give you a "faggot shit" principle for understanding women AND
men. And that is, much of people's behavior is on "auto-pilot".

That is, people, for better or worse, get in grooves or ruts. They learn to
respond in a certain way, based on figuring out or accidentally seeing what
works for them.

Or, as we'd say in that "faggot discipline" of NLP, brains tend to move
towards what is familiar.

Often times, what seems like deliberate, planned "testing" on the part of a
woman is just auto-pilot behavior.

She hasn't thought it through it advance.

She's not sitting around at home thinking, "If Jim calls, I'm going to tell
him I'm too busy to talk and see how he responds".

It is just what she is used to doing.

The first key, then, to "calling women on their bullshit" is to NOT take it
personally and to realize, it's almost always NOT thought out in advance,
but just auto-pilot behavior.

It's not aimed at you and it isn't deliberate.

It's just what she is used to.

Now, the next thing is to recognize what I call "the authority principle".

The principle simply goes like this: BEFORE people will recognize you as a
wanted alternative to what they would NORMALLY go for, they must FIRST
believe that you are an authority on where they are already at.

(Of course, if you are already what they would NORMALLY select, you don't
have to worry about it..hence good looking guys dismissing all of this as
"faggot shit.")

Put another way, if you can demonstrate to people that you deeply
understand their world...perhaps in a way that no one ever has
before....then they will extend to you alot more credibility and value when
it comes to moving them where you want them to go. "If he's so right about
where I'm at, maybe he's right about where I should GO!"

This is  the "no one has ever said that to me before" phenomena. But more
importantly,  it's also the "holy shit...he's totally right and I never
even realized it before phenomena!"

In other words, the person perceives you just told them a VERY important,
truth about themselves/their behavior/how they move through the world -
something they either NEVER even thought of or realized, or only thought
about VERY dimly.

Cliff tells the story of attempting to meet two very hot women on the
streets of Montreal. They just snubbed him, and in a flash of inspiration
he said, "You know, you've spent your entire adult life being instantly
judged on one thing....your appearance. And now, you're doing the same
thing to me!"

This produced such an instant and positive change in their attitude he
didn't know how to handle it!

Remember that, Cliff?

What got these girls, in this case, is Cliff first demonstrating he
understood what their world was like, and he did so ELEGANTLY.

He stated a truth about THEIR experience, "You've spent your entire adult
life being instantly judged on one thing...your appearance."

Next, he pointed out what these girls were doing to HIM was the same thing
that went through.  He spoke truth, simply and powerfully and they HAD to
recognize it.

Problem is, Cliffy was so surprised, he left out the next step...which is
to lead them in the new direction you want them to go!

Here's another example the famous "I've got a boyfriend" response.

EVERY guy has heard this one.

I'm convinced it's pretty much a pre-programmed, AUTOMATIC response women
give without even themselves considering the implications.

So, here is my "boyfriend ignorer" response.

"Well, I assumed someone as attractive as you are is going to be with

(Note that on the word "someone," I very slightly scrunch up my face and
use a dismissive tonality....IMPLYING, but NOT stating, "But he's probably
not the right one.")

Here comes the kicker part,

"But you know, sometimes I find people ask themselves a question.....Is he
filling a role.......or is he fulfilling NEEDS that come from deep inside
who you are? AND deep inside the person --- you can see yourself
becumming.....with me.....if it's this second thing...I'll say...this feels
great...(touching her shoulder)...stick with THIS (touch again)...but if
it's the first.......maybe we have something to talk about?"

Now, simply by asking that question, what are you doing? You are first of
"BORE-FRIENDS" and the reality of most real-hate-shun-ships.

That is, MOST relationships are such that the woman, ON SOME LEVEL, feels
she is "settling".  This is a great pace for a big question most women ask
at some point in their relationships with men. "Am I settling?"

And in most relationships, guess what.....THEY ARE SETTLING!

Most of the time, when you ask this question, you will also suddenly give
her the clarity to recognize that that is EXACTLY what "borefiend", or even
"hus-bore/has-been" is -- just someone fulfilling a role, instead of
fulfilling her NEEDS.

In other words, you demonstrate you understand how she thinks AND the
reality of the situation!  Plus you've knocked her right off what she was
expecting to receive.

Another quick example.  Let's say she says, "Sorry....but you're not my type."

The response? "Hey...if you want to prejudge your own opportunities...based
on the way you're USED to responding to men...maybe I'm not the one who
loses from that."

What are you doing here? You're pointing out the truth of what it means to
have a "type."  When someone says you are not their "type," they are saying
that they have a familiar pattern to what they find attractive, and that
you don't fit it.  In effect, what they are saying, WITHOUT REALIZING it,
is that, for them, attraction is a matter of a automatic
response, and that response may actually be causing them to miss out!"

I could go on and on with this (and do in my seminars)....

The keys are:
1. Stay calm and be prepared for these responses. They are AUTO-PILOT and
usually not even thought through by the woman.  Rigid responses are not to
be feared...they are actually great advantages to those who know how to
spot them and turn them.

2. Ask yourself, if you don't have a ready response, "What is this person
REALLY telling me about their behavior, their situation, the way they move
through the world that actually represents a LOSS or a NEGATIVE or PAIN or
a LIMITATION for them?"

3. How can I simply and elegantly POINT THAT OUT in a way that demonstrates
I understand their world?

Ok.  Those of you living on a hill in a big party mansion who look like
movie stars and who have a personal grudge against me can keep ignoring me.
The rest of you should go out and try it. Or visit my website


Here are some facts on Rasputin. At an early age he supposedly joined a
religious group called the Khlysty sect which held a belief that was through
engaging in excess sin they would find the path to salvation. In this case,
sex represented the excess sin. He wandered the Russian country side
preaching that indulgence in excess sex represented the key to salvation.
Since people saw him as some sort of a miracle healer he convinced many
women to sleep with him to gain salvation. Many accounts, mainly kept by his
wife tell of him sleeping with hundreds of women in his short life time and
all this despite rarely bathing and having an unkempt appearance.

I also read that his stare held the key to his success. He would look at
women deeply into their eyes and hold the stare. Inevitably they would feel
his extreme sexual presence and give into his sexual advances almost as if
through an hypnotic effect. Looking back through personal experience I
realized that holding eye contact does indeed seem to elicit deep romantic
feelings in a woman. He also took women in the sense that he did not wait
for permission but just acted by kissing them and just initiating sex
without any preliminaries.

We can follow his example by also maintaining eye contact and just acting
while having the advantage over him by actually bathing and keeping clean.


Mr. X:
This review has been percolating in my mind for some time, so I'm glad to
get around to writing it.  I was fortunate enough to take part in the
Awakening Unafraid seminar held in Montreal May 11-13 by Mark Cunningham and
Steve Piccus.  Overall, I would say that any opportunity to spend time with
Mark and/or Steve is time well-spent -- being in their presence will
transmit some wisdom to you, seminar setting or not, and nowadays that's a
rare trait.  I would also like to convey some significant shortcomings of
the seminar to allow for improvement in future editions.

Each day the seminars began at about 9.  On the first day, Mark presented
an introduction to hypnosis and an excellent discussion of the structure of
fear.  After catching everybody up on their hypnosis skills with an Elman
induction, the rest of the day was spent doing some nice patterns and drills
with Mark and Steve.  Steve's pattern that I will call the 'baboon swish'
was particularly useful for taking away the power of someone to diminish our
personal power.  I have since used that pattern to help several friends,
with excellent results.

On Saturday, once again we started with a discussion of fear, then after a
break, jumped right into some fun drills.  One particularly powerful one
involved going into deep trance, then taking an observer position relative
to ourselves and giving ourselves advice on how to obliterate doubt and
hesitation in a given situation.  Other goal-getting and fear-obliterating
drills were also dramatic and tons of fun to do as well.

Sunday was a relatively short day -- more on motivation, goal-setting and
goal-getting and setting up propulsion systems, and a few more drills.  The
seminar ended with a very dramatic, reportedly mind-bending group exercise
called a 'mind massage', which I missed for leaving early.
The seminar was also a wonder of haphazard organization.  Mark specifically
stated that he did not wish to use a syllabus because, as a hypnotist, the
very essence of what he did was free-form and adaptable to the mood of the
audience.  Fair enough.  However, I would not be alone in saying that the
presenters did the attendees a disservice by presenting what
seemed essentially to be an ad-libbed seminar.  We journey from far and
wide, spend time and money on travel and accommodation, and expect a certain
amount of value - especially from established presenters.  Almost every time
I asked a question about a slightly off-topic technique (I mean, c'mon,
these guys have reputations, and we're curious) from one of the presenters,
that particular technique became the next part of the seminar.  The
technique in question was fun, but often only tangentially related to the
subject matter of conquering fear, so it puzzled me a bit.  Also, the breaks
were often quite long -- 2.5 hours plus for lunch, 10 minute pee breaks
becoming 1.5 hour storytelling sessions.  Having attended similar seminars
before, I
would surmise that almost all of the actual techniques and meat of the
seminar could have been completed in one day efficiently spent, or two at
the most.  Having to take a Friday off from work, at the cost of several
hundred dollars, was a burden I (and others) would have been happy to avoid.
On a semantic note, I wish there were more emphasis on nurturing courage
(accentuating the positive) vs. diminishing fear (being rid of the
negative), which is more of what NLP and hypnosis strives to do anyway.
And, finally, had there been a syllabus telling us that the seminar would
end in the big bang of a neo-pagan mind-massage ritual, those of us who left
early would have made sure to stick around the extra 45 minute to have this
rare experience.
Was the seminar useful?  Absolutely.  Was I pretty supercharged for a good
two weeks afterwards?  Absolutely.  Did the effect diminish?  Of course.  Do
I still have the tools to supercharge myself and go get what I want?  You
bet, and I have done it, too.  The seminar will give you the short-term fix,
but you have to put in the effort to implement the techniques into your own
life for long-term benefit.  Overall, I would say the quality of my life has
improved, and I have set in motion many projects that I had postponed for
fear or indecision or uncertainty or whatever lame-ass excuse I was able to
come up with before.


I called up a 35 year old woman I slept with a few months ago and we chatted
for a bit. She is 5'10" 125 lbs., black, and a Naomi Campbell look alike with
long lean legs and an ass that never quits. I always believe in gathering
data and then drawing conclusions rather than fitting a theory into real
life experience. I steered the conversation to the topic of what makes a man
desirable to a woman. What better way to gather info than from the horses
mouth itself.
On the topic of attraction:
Me "What makes a man attractive to you?"
Jackie "His looks, eye contact and confidence."
Me "How quickly do you decide whether you would sleep with a man?"
Jackie"Almost right away if he does all the right things."
Me" Have you ever done that."
Jackie "Yes, I have. He did all the right things and I fucked him the same
night I met him."
Me "What were they?"
Jackie "He was good looking but more importantly he came across like he
wanted me with a lot of confidence." (It took me 1 1/2 weeks from 1st
meeting to score her)
On the topic of looks:
Me "What is it about a man's looks that appeals to you?"
Jackie "His body, whether he is shape, his face, how he carries himself,
Me"Can you still be attracted to a guy who is average or below overage
Jackie "Yes I can. If he comes across as confident, a gentleman and treats
me with respect."
Me "To you what is there a difference between whether a good looking guy
tells you that you look great versus an average looking guy."
Jackie "If the good looking guy tells me that I think he just wants to fuck
me but that's fine if he is a gentleman about it and not crude and I am also
attracted to him. If the average guy tells me that then I just take it as a
compliment. But how a woman takes it depends on how she feels about herself
and her self esteem level. But no matter how he looks as long as he is not
repulsive, if he seems sincere then it makes him seem more confident."
On the topic of confidence:
Me "Which is most important out of looks, eye contact and confidence?"
Jackie "Confidence."
Me "What makes a man confident?"
Jackie "When he comes across as real and not trying to put on an act. When
they seem like they are trying to put on an act they seem unconfident and
unsure of themselves."
Me "Explain some more."
Jackie "Some guys hesitate and seem like they are trying to hide their true
intention. I would rather hear what he really wants to say then have him try
to mince his words."
Me "Why I am able to tell you that I would like to bend you over your desk
and fuck you and blow my load all over your back and you do not mind that
sort of talk from me? Why can I get away with it with you and other guys
Jackie "Because when you say it you mean it and you do not mince words. You
are straight to the point and there is no second guessing what you want. You
do not care what the other person will think of what you say. That is
attractive. Even though I may not agree, I respect what you say because I see
it as real. When other guys say it, they do not say it with enough confidence
and I lose respect."
On the topic of eye contact:
Me "Tell me about eye contact."
Jackie "Eye contact establishes and communicates my attraction to man. When
I am attracted to a man I will look him in the eye and hold it. I may look
away, but then I come back and hold it again. That is how I let a man know
that I want him. If he holds it back and looks me in the eye then I know he
wants me and I can let myself feel more attracted to him and allow him more
room to pursue me."
Me "How do the mechanics work for you?"
Jackie "When he holds eye contact with me, he tells me he is also interested.
If he looks away then I think he is not attracted to me or he lacks
confidence. This makes me lose attraction to him."
Me "When is this most important?"
Jackie "As soon as I meet him I would like to know whether he is attracted
to me. So the sooner he does it the better."
Me "What about before you meet?"
Jackie "That is a good way to see if the woman is interested. If she makes
eye contact and looks back and holds it then she is interested and you can
go after her. You can get her if you stay a gentleman and confident."
Me "If a guy you just met tells you he just wants to fuck you what is your
Jackie "Fuck you, you rude asshole."
Me "What if to that he said 'listen I want to fuck and just get over your
drama and accept it' what then?"
Jackie "Well, I would laugh and still think he was an asshole but more
Me "What would that do to your perception of him?"
Jackie "Maybe give him another chance if he then became more polite."
Me "What about challenge?"
Jackie "I like a guy who tries to get his way with me. This tells me he
wants me and once again it makes him look more confident in my eyes.
Me "Meet me in the parking lot on your break and give me a blow job and
swallow my load in my car."
Jackie "I'll give you a blow job but not in your car. People could see and I
could lose my job."
Me "Don't worry about it. Let's just do it"
Jackie "(laughing) Mark, I can't. I will give you one but not around here
where people could see."
(this was me being forward and crude again just to see what she would say)
Important points:
Establish and hold eye contact to let a woman know you want her and allow
her attraction to build.
You can almost say anything at any time as long as it seems real and
uncontrived. That is how you come across as confident.
You can also be as sexual at the beginning as you want as long as that come
across and real and genuine.
The fact that you are sexual is irrelevant. What matters is that you are
confident and come across as real.
Looks matter but if you do not have them you can still score by being
confident and making eye contact.
Women like to feel like the guy take charge.
Interesting eh?


Arte (Founder, New Sex Institute,
How to Help A Woman Have Her First Female Ejaculations & G-Spot Orgasms
-Part 2 ©2001 Arte &

³Oh my God!² she gasps, ³I¹m right on the edge!!!!!²

Cheryl¹s head tosses from side to side on the white 300-count cotton sheets
-- partially obscuring my view of the exasperation on her beautiful face...

Green/gray tigress eyes squeeze tight, not wanting to let me in... Not
wanting to reveal the secrets behind them... Like a little girl beneath a
blanket hiding from monsters in the darkness...

But this is no little girl.

She is 39 years old...

President of a cutting-edge corporation with 100+ high-salaried digerati
working under her...

She drives an $80,000.00 top-of-the-line BMW...

Owns her own extremely tasteful and impressive home...

Pays for her EXPENSIVE lifestyle all by herself...

Her many lovers have been movie stars and other handsome, wealthy,
successful men...

She¹s turned down numerous marriage proposals, including one from a
billionaire (³with a B²)...

She is also a woman who knows soooooooo well what to do in bed. After all,
she¹s a film producer with major motion pictures and their sequels to her
credit -- and producers are all sex-crazed nymphomaniacs.

But this little vixen with all-natural double-D¹s standing straight up off
her chest when she¹s lying on her back -- she of the silky-smooth skin, with
the vault full of porn star stilettos, the massive collection of plunging
necklines and open-backed silk nightgowns, this highly-wound executive
over-achiever with her very own Jacuzzi and a big powerful mouth that KNOWS
how to make a man scream with the pleasure of her awesome sloppy hummers --
this little Valley Slut who is hotter than any Tantra Goddess I¹ve ever
known, is way out of her comfort zone...

³What are you doing to me?!² she screams as her head undulates passionately
from side to side. ³What¹s HAPPENING to me??!!??!! What are you doing to
me??????!!!!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME???????!!!!!!!!!!???????²

Suddenly her eyelids spring open and her eyes dart about the room,
desperately grasping for answers -- on the ceiling, in a mirror, in my

She is frantic because she is out of control.

An experience which is not familiar to this woman.

Quite the contrary -- her whole world is based on control... Control of
information, environments, events, people...

Yet here she is on the edge of some unknown, drenched in sweat, panting like
an animal, all tangled up in a stranger¹s limbs...

And we are basically strangers. This affair has been going on for less than
a month. We¹ve had sex maybe half a dozen times. It¹s been intense and
wonderful up to this point, but we¹re still just ³pseudo.² Not even in a
³relationship.² Basically, just fucking.

And while she¹s never ejaculated, never gone over that wall, never reached
the realm of euphoric pleasure beyond what most people ever experience --
somehow she knows in her gut that once she lets go and ³lets it flow,² she¹s
going to be completely out of control. That her physical being will be at
the command of a stranger. That the stranger will be pulling her strings
with the slightest touch of his fingertips.

How can you possibly get a woman like this to let go like that?

I can sum it up with one simple, lynch-pin word Trust.

She must have absolute and total trust in you.

She must believe in her heart and in her gut that nothing you will ever do
will hurt her.

She must be willing to place her life in your hands.

That¹s all it takes; complete trust.

A tall order? Yes. Do-able? Totally.

In fact, it can be rather simple. You must demonstrate competence and
confidence in bed; a true, honest, sincere level of respect for her as a
person; and use simple body language» cues that I will reveal in the days and
weeks ahead.

Next Lesson 3rd Psychological Factor - ³The Importance of Being Naked²

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