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The David Seminar
10/2/01 4:25:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time

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This is a special edition of Cliff's Private List, a free e-mail relating
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Those of you who have been reading this list for awhile have heard about my
friend David and his unique system. In case you hadn't, below you will find
a repost of reports from Stephane and Formhandle (of www.fas.speed-»
from when they met him. It is my considered opinion that there isn't really
anyone out there with a system of "meeting, attracting, bedding, and
keeping women" like David's.

On Friday, November 16th through Sunday, November 18th, 2001 David will
hold a seminar here in Montreal. The price is $500 USD and to secure your
place a deposit of $200 USD is required. If you have interest in attending
this seminar, send me an email by replying to this one (to
cli***f@cl***.com[ ? ]) and you will receive all the details.  Seating is
limited and we expect to sell out.

If you are unable to attend the seminar, David will be available for
private consultations, both in person and on the phone.

If you have any doubts that this will be one of the most enlightening
experiences of your life, read these excerpts from posts that previously
appeared (if you want to see the entire posts, just ask):

The DAVID method

Yesterday afternoon, a few of us went over to David's house for a
'seminar'. David is married with kids, in his early fifties, overweight,
and really nothing to look at. But he has a very complete a-z system for
meeting, attracting, bedding, and keeping women. And this includes multiple
women management as well.

We all sat down in his basement. He started talking, and we started
listening. It soon became very apparent that this guy is the REAL DEAL. And
although I've never seen him in action, I'm a believer. This guy reminds of
Richard Bandler so much, because they can both easily command the full
attention of an audience. David's self-assurance exudes from every pore.
When it comes to women, this guy is one enlightened mother-fucker!

David is a man. And this attitude is very apparent in the way he moves, the
way he talks. He has mastered the art of confidence, and that is a rare
thing.  If you ever get the chance to meet David, you should.

This post is about a dim sum brunch I will call the "David brunch".

Cliff invited Dante & I to a brunch he was having on Sunday which included a
bunch of guys on his list and a special "guest", a guy named David who Cliff
has known since he was a teenager. Apparently, David is a master PU artist.
Shit, I hate even using the word artist because his philosophy and skill is
not based on anything artistic. Most of the guys had sat down for the dim
sum and then David showed up with his 2 kids. I kid you not, this guy had a
6-year-old and a 1-year-old in tow. The guy was 50, I guess, and married
but apparently has gotten his share of women through the years. At first, I was
my usual skeptical self until this guy started talking. He sounded exactly
like my PUA friend Danny from years ago (who could pull chicks
left-and-right). Same philosophy about women, same humor, same overall
demeanor and mannerisms. It's like they came from the same mold. Once he
started talking to all the guys at the table, answering questions, insulting
us, hitting us over the head with his rules, the floodgates of PUA wisdom
poured out. I knew it wasn't BS because I've known a guy just like him and
I know what he was saying was the truth.

I was so affected by the brunch that it had an immediate
affect on how I approach PU. I lost all fear of approaching any chick that
attracted me and I was no longer concerned with precisely how I opened. I
also lost my care of any outcome and became able to get to the point much
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This one also looked pretty interesting. Information on breakups and loving-styles.

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Arte’s New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman’s g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend – but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully.

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