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Read ’em the Riot Act
10/18/01 6:24:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time


Update on The David Seminar:  David had two private consultations this past
weekend, one in person and one on the phone and below you will see comments
on the phone consult,and the other one should be in here shortly.  The
seminar will be held November 16-18 here in Montreal and more information
is available by emailing me.  Cost is $500 US with a $200 US
deposit.  Early registrations are greatly encouraged.

David will be elaborating on his system to find, meet, attract, bed, and
keep women.

Among the topics David will discuss and present his views on will be:
- Confidence
- How to really get back your ex or to attract that one special girl
- How to pick up strippers
- How to create, manage and keep a "stable" of women simultaneously
- How to have threesomes and multiples
- How to overcome resistance when you are about to close the deal
- How he uses language (he has many unique ideas that you won't learn
through NLP or anywhere else)
- The importance of setting your rules and sticking to them
- How honesty, trust and respect are your golden keys (this is the reframe
to beat all reframes)
and much more. David will also spend time giving his ideas about how to
solve your individual issues.


Silent K:
I talked to David for about two hours over the phone. 2
things to note were that David is as sure of himself
and who he is on the phone as his principles would
suggest -- I have no question that this guy sticks to
his rules. The second thing is that he is a lot more
compassionate and full of boyish fun/humor than I
would have imagined. One of the first things I told
him was I was feeling a bit nervous talking to him,
since I was struggling with this, and it was kind of
embarrassing, and he said "I don't believe that" and
then "the way I see it, you already can do this. You
just need to get back to basics." Right off the bat,
the guy had my attention. I won't summarize the rest,
because the past posts have touched on a lot already,
but one thing that struck me is he said "I never like
to put a woman down. I'll let her know my rules, and
I never compromise on them, but I want her to feel
good with me. I flatter them -- crudely perhaps, but
they enjoy that." Overall, the guy ALWAYS knows what
he wants, and says what is on his mind (in a charming
way, but basically talking out loud).  He kept saying
over and over "who fucking cares what she's thinking?
You'll never know anyway, and it doesn't make you
smarter! Just let it go!" The guy's tone was like a
self-assured Joe Pesci (from those mobster movies).
"Ya gotta read 'em the riot act, let 'em know how it
is." The closest he came to analyzing his approach
was to say that "what do these women want? I don't
know, but if you look at these magazines, and their
movies, it's like the want a guy with a sense of
humor, a guy who is confident about himself, and a guy
who is strong." Another bon mot was that "I believe I
can sleep with any woman. But it's just not worth the
time to invest in every woman, so you gotta find out
fast if she's down with your rules, or else she's
gotta leave!"
Overall, my impression is that David has a great
system, based on his desires and a solid experience of
women. And a great understanding of living life, not
just laying chicks. He also had a great way of
encouraging me to listen to "one person. Not 3, not
1.5, but one person -- yourself." As he put it, listen
to your gut instincts, and simply think out loud, you
will not go wrong. In the few days since the
conversation, I have been shaken, but in a good way.
I now realize that most of my efforts with this stuff
were motivated by bullshit reasons (looking cool,
building up my self-esteem) and am doing a lot of work
on what it is I really want. David was incredibly
honest, and I think that was great to talk to him. I
can say this: talking to David changed my frame of
mind in a good way. I am actually more confused in a
way, but I feel free in a way that I did not before.
I don't know if this will help people, but if you are
stuck, I think David has a great sense of how to
connect with himself and what he wants in life, and to
show you where you are fooling yourself. David said
that the biggest difficulty is "going for what you
want versus going for what you're brainwashed (by
mother/society/peers) to do". He said that with his
kids, he has hopes and such for them, but his main
thing is that "they feel secure enough in themselves
to go for what makes them happy". I am still working
on connecting with what I want, and being secure
enough with myself with women (mainly just reminding
myself that her opinion of me is just her opinion of
me), and I appreciate David's help in showing me how I
was fooling myself, so I can focus on deciding what I
want. They say that the truth will set you free, and
talking to David was like getting a double-shot of
truth, with a chaser of gut-busting humor. The guy
tells it like it is, and has a passion for
living -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!


Saaq:  Are you aware of
Just thought I'd bring it to your attention

Cliff's Comment:  That had been mentioned here a long time ago.  I see that
the site has changed a lot. How about someone doing a review?


Louis and Copeland have a free 29 page e-book called "Secrets of Seduction"
available for download at Some good
stuff in there and I definitely think most of your readers will find it


Commenting on the Self-talk thread:
For over a year I tried all the positive self talk
advice to get myself in the right state of mind,
overcome my various weaknesses, etc. The problem was,
it didn't work for me.
What I didn't take into consideration is that I'm a
polarity responder. I finally started doing "negative
affirmations" i.e. telling myself I'm timid or suffer
"paralysis or analysis" or whatever.
My natural contrariness set in and I became determined
to prove my statements wrong.
I have found this to be much more effective in
improving my weaknesses.


MTL_PUA with A LOT of help from James (Thanks man!)
Last weekend I went out with Cliffy and James. James ran something by me
that I wanted to field test, so I went out and tested it tonight.
12 approaches in all, but as soon as I would get to the BF question, I
would either try to # close if they were single or continue if they were
"spoken for."  I approached 5 women that all had BF's. It turned out to be
fine because I was there explicitly to try this pattern out. I would talk
with them a bit and ask if they had a BF. I typically don't do this but I
was there specifically to test this out, and I did not have a lot of time.
We call it the Pre-Emptive Strike BF Destroyer.

[If she has a picture of him, make her pull it out and hold it in her helps when killing him in her head...if she does not, no biggie]

I was talking with my friend Tracy, a model that I work with, and she was
telling me about how she met and fell in love with the man of her dreams.
She was showing me a picture just like you, actually... [if she is showing
you a picture]
She used to tell me all the time: "I am totally crazy about this guy"
She said that at the time, she was already seeing somebody and [point to
picture of BF, or point away] and she thought he was the one  she was
going to spend the rest of her life with. But then, she met someone new
 and she described it like this: "For some mysterious reason you just
find yourself so attracted to this person ; you don't know what it is,
but somehow you just feel that special for all the right reasons"
She said that she felt really strange about it at first, but then she told
me "Tom, you know that feeling that you must have something, and must have
it NOW  It's absolutely incredible and amazing!"
And it was really weird - BUT - what she realized as she was staring at the
photo of her BF at the time [or thinking about her BF at the time]
to picture in her hand or away> was that you start recalling all of the
times when he did things that really bothered you and really hurt you. And
guess what ... you take that photo [image] of him and THROW IT AWAY [push
away the photo or her hand].  And in it's place, was the
image of this person that you will be spending the rest of your life with
[use your hands to make a frame around your face]
And that is EXACTLY what Tracy did. She left her boyfriend [point to photo
or away] and began immediately seeing this guy that had become her new soul
mate  ...

So out of 5 approaches of women with boyfriends, I got 5 numbers and two
damn hot kiss closes in one night. After I ran this pattern on them, in all
cases, the boyfriend never came up again. Now, I guess I will only know how
effective it has been once I bed one of them, but before this I had a lot
of trouble running BF destroyers. This one is definitely a pre-emptive
strike that will knock her out.

MTL_PUA on Splinter's ("If listening to David during a brunch can get a guy
like me
a blow job in a public place such as the Old Port in Montreal")
My take on David: The guy is VERY FUCKING GOOD. I will never forget my meet
with him. If you have a chance to go to the seminar in November, do it. He
will open your eyes as no one has done before. Just being around him will
boost you tenfold. After meeting him, you just automatically start doing
things for YOURSELF instead of doing them for the pickup.

MTL_PUA commenting on Powerhouse Supreme's ("Here is the dual personality
pattern I talked to you about. This thing puts the interaction on a whole
new level!!!")
Bud, this is the best contribution I have seen in a long time. I am going
to field test it this weekend and come back to you with some feedback on
what can be done to make it even more powerful.

MTL_PUA has a question for Ross Jeffries
Ross, I thought of emailing this to you but I figure it can answer a lot of
questions for people that have not been into SS for very long.
Ever since I saw you anchor a barmaid's feelings onto a damn stir stick at
Buena Notte, I have been curious about hard core SS. My question is this:
Where does one start to learn SS properly, without
having any previous serious exposure to it??? Books? Your material? Where?

Here is a good little gimmick for flaky bitchez. If I feel that some woman are
disconnecting from me, or not calling me back, I just run a new edition of
MTL_PUA 's Life List (hehehehe). This is a bogus email that I send out to
under the impression that it is a mailing list to all of my friends. Intro
like this:
Subject: MTL_PUA 's Life List
If you are receiving this email, odds are you ran into MTL_PUA  at one
point or another in your life, and he somehow thought that you became a good
friend, or at least someone worth knowing. This email is an initiative from
me to all of you, as many bitch & complain that I don't give news, write,
email, call or visit often enough. It goes out every so often to keep you
updated, and silent ~LOL~ If you would like to be removed from this list
please type REMOVE in the subject line upon replying to this email. I will
then curse you, consider releasing your address to email spammers, and
finally remove your address from my list : ). Alternatively, you could change
your identity. Your call, really. If you have any questions or comments,
please feel free to write back. Unless you have poor grammar, in which case
you can just call me ~LOL~

Here are the latest developments over the past few weeks:
next section>
Get in my head section:
"I have been thinking up some weird stuff lately, mainly when it comes down
to two people meeting each other ...
So here is the lowdown: she gets the email and thinks it's a mailing list
with unshown addresses. Reads it, and thinks about what you have to say
(without knowing that it's geared especially towards her), and WILL reply
as long as the email makes sense. It will peak her interest at least.
It has worked like a charm in the past, and it always has them emailing me
back and asking when I will be seeing them again, and other bullshit. Tip
the scale in your favor.

(New story) I met a blonde girl at Thursdays here in Montreal recently who
ended up being a pretty interesting meet. Dumb as hell though ... kind of
un-sexy to me.
I go to pick her up and she is giving me attitude all night and she ended up
hitting on this guy at the pool hall (an AFC we saw
her with two days earlier - apparently he was there by fluke). She was
talking to
him all kinds and I was out-Alpha'd, which sucked cuz I was tired as hell.
BUT I have too much pride to let it slide, and I had good rapport with this
other chick that kept eyeing me up and down (a 7), so I spoke to her for
about 20 minutes and went for the "You know what I think? I think you should
kiss me NOW" close. Got a nice tongue-down kiss and the blonde got pissed
off at me. I got the # (of the new girl) and got out and went back to see
blondie and by this time she is FUMING, and goes to the washroom. I just
look at the guy (bodybuilder type - he had that fucking "I am the best"
grin on his face, looking slightly pissed off though) and
tell him this line from a movie I saw once: "I am not quite sure what pisses
you off more ... the fact that you know I am this girl's fantasy now ... or
the fact that she'll be thinking of ME even if you get a
pity-frustration-fuck .... ". I swear the guy just deflated and when she
came back, she started talking to him again. I am pretty sure she is trying
to make me jealous or something but I really didn't give a shit because you
know I DO NOT tolerate disrespect. Anyways, I was playing pool by myself and
all of a sudden she just turns around and SNAPS at me, saying shit like "I
can't believe you are taking me out and you are not paying attention to me,
bla bla bla, go kiss other girls, bla bla bla". AFC ejects at this point
without saying bye to her (hehe). I just told her that she was ASSUMING that
I was taking her out and maybe she was expecting too much out of this whole
meeting. She mumbles something about men being all the same, and I tell her
that that is not true (here is something new 4 u): "Men are not all the
same. Some men pretend that they fuck women, some men actually go out, do it
and love it. I know you like the second type."
Called me yesterday late at night, and she asked me why I was "so mean" with
her. I told her she was being immature and childish, then ran Steph's
COURAGE VS CONSIDERATION pattern, and that impresses the crap out of her. So
I try to push it and say: "Well, if we are going to be friends you are going
to introduce me to beddable women, OK?", and at this point she mutters "But
.... what's wrong with me???", I just told her that she looked like she was
good in bed, but I did not want the whole mind-fuck that comes with bedding
her. She apologized for being a bitch and promised that she would never do
this again if (these are her words) "YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I
promise I will make it up to you!", so I am in for the sex part 4 sure at
this point.
She called twice today, but I am busy as hell and she is no fun on the
phone. If I could just fuck her and drop the rest of the bullshit, that
would be cool. I just want to eliminate the convo and screw her, but you
know how fucking picky I am.
Anyways, that's how you turn a "super-bitch" with shields up to full power
(hehehe ... I know you remember that approach ~LOL~) into a supplicating
naughty slut that will do anything for you.


Ross:  (Commenting on: "I'm 5'7" I have a spare tire big enough for a
monster truck, I'm 39 average looking. She is 5'9" gorgeous, firm, trim and
31 and gives me all that I need, without patterns or fancy lines."):
Let's make something clear because I don't like mistakes to happen: THIS
woman responds to FORCEFULNESS. Not all women will respond this
dramatically or to this aggressive a level of approach. What made this Bro
successful is that he was alert enough to read that THIS woman would
respond to THIS approach. I'm also willing to bet this is NOT the first
time she's ever given a guy she barely knows a public blow job!  In other
words, he didn't get new behavior from her. This is the way she is USED to
responding and what it is she responds to: POWER.
In this case, it's almost like meeting someone who is enough of an a-hole
gives HER permission to act as slutty and exciting and horny as she really
wants to act, but normally doesn't get to. She needs a bit of negating
before she can drop the cold-bitch act.
There ARE women who respond to this. Others might be scared away. Remember,
also, she's 31, so she's been around the block.
Try doing that with someone in her early 20's; you might not get the public
blow job (she'd probably want to go somewhere private!).   But good job!


(Commenting on Max: "Can anyone recommend any books or websites on embedded

I can almost guarantee that you won't be able to find an ENTIRE BOOK or
website on embedded commands.  They are just TOO SIMPLE.  Because all you
are doing is emphasizing some
words and not others.  And those words are usually verbs.  That's it!

People can, Max, FEEL COMPELLED to find more data on embedded commands,
and when they GO FOR IT thoroughly, they have a tendency to GET
ADDICTED to that which they do not know...yet...will...LEARN.

See how easy that was?  Now, if anyone wrote a book about that, then
I'm glad to be giving you all the contents.  Anyway, embeds are
outlined in great detail in the book TRANCEFORMATIONS by Bandler &
Grinder, along with just about every other hypnotic pattern.

(Commenting on Mark B:  "Virtually all relationship experts claim that we
must not act needy toward a woman. Exactly what does needy mean? And also if
we are asking her to meet with us then is that not acting as if we have a
need? What then is the purpose of her meeting with us if we do not have a
need to be with her? When we ask her out, go for a number, slide our hand
down her pants is that not a sign of a need?"):

I, too, have spent alot of time (possibly way too MUCH time!) pondering this.
Here's my two cents....

Needy means if you can't have it, PAIN.

Asking her to meet with us COULD be perceived as need.  I think we NEED
to be very careful when we ASK for a 'date' or anything.  My style
does not include 'asking'.  I don't demand, either.  I usually SUGGEST.
"I'm going to so and so's party this should cum."
"Do you date immature men?"
"Have you ever wanted a cock so bad that you just..." (Sorry!)

Not just the words but the feeling behind them.  I'm sorta saying, with
my body language»,"You're stupid if you don't!"  It works alot better
than polite asking.  And if I'm feeling really good, I will just
fuckin' PRESUPPOSE IT.  "OK, so I'll see you on Saturday!"  If she gives
me a funny look, I have a great 'bail-out anchor' that I use.  It's
magic and it has saved my ass ALOT over the years. It's called a WINK!

Anyway, the other cent is to just simply replace the word need with
the word want, cause it makes a difference. DUH!

Also, as a human being, we need sex, and we need connectivity with
other human beings. SO BE IT!! I could use some sex right now, actually...

(Commenting on: "Assume that for every 100 women out there 30% of them have a
need and are open to being with a man like you right now."):

30% is pretty fuckin' good, generous even.  I have the illusion that
all women love me, they just don't know it yet.  But I'm just an
arrogant pig.  Because fuck rapport.  I never 'try' to get rapport.
I just assume it's there already.  Cocky, but effective.


Horn Dog:
I was LMAO about the comments on the church
chyks...not that I specialize in them, but have
noticed in the past that once you get past their
superficial barriers, they tend to really let out
all that they've been repressing. Using the
"take away" is as much tension in
them as you can, they already have enough, not
much more will burst their dam. The main trick
is to help them give themselves permission.
Confessing your "sins" as a voracious horndog to
them and asking them to help you "feel the power"
is a good way to keep the convos sexually charged
and full of any patterns you can manage to spin.
If her church is the spirit-filled kind, you can
always speak in terms of the Spirit "feeling its
power penetrate deeply," or being "overcome (cum)
by the power," and so on. You get the idea.
As to the problem of negation in your
affirmations...first identify what you WANT, and
eliminate words about what you DON'T want.
Erickson talked about the problems of suggestion
in quitting smoking. He suggested that you speak
entirely in terms of what you would have or do
without smoking...such as breathing fresh air,
spending money on your date instead, and the like.


Brother Marcus:
[Responding to Mark B.: "For anyone serious in learning how to succeed with
women in the group should rent the movie The Tao of Steve. It's about a
group of men who
pattern themselves after Steve McQueen and use eastern religious teachings
to score with women.]

The movie was written by a Duncan North, who attended my alma mater. He
graduated a year before I started. The alumni newspaper had an interview
with him about a year ago, in which he brought up some interesting facts.
Most significantly, the director and producer, both women, rewrote the film
to have a traditional romantic comedy/chick film ending; The way he wrote
it, Dex (main character) goes off to seminary just like he discusses with
that priest in the men's room at the beginning of the film. Kind of
appropriate, really, as Dex rants towards the middle of the film about how
Romantic Love is the state religion of the USA.
Mr. North, by the way, writes a dating/sex advice column for The Santa Fe
Reporter (a local culture and entertainment weekly) called The Tao of Love.
Dex is, quite evidently, based on Duncan.
I'll agree that Dex has some kick-ass large-chunk technique, BUT I notice
that he is missing a piece of the puzzle as far as I can tell; he doesn't
have a frame for having more than one woman in his life that lets them all
be at peace with it and even like it. There's a scene where he is at a party
and three women he is either currently shagging or wants to shag all show
up. He is visibly horrified by the situation, as if their knowing about each
other would bring disaster. Also, at numerous points in the movie, he tells
little white lies with the design of getting women into bed. Maybe it works
for him and for them, but yuck. I just don't lie. It's so much easier. Only
one story to keep track of. He is really pushing the limits of being
illusive without being downright squirrelly or dishonest or unavailable even
to himself. Of course, one would need that conflict in order to make him an
interesting character, at least in a film arguably made for women. I would
merely patch this aspect of his approach if you wanted to integrate his


I would say that from my personal experience men are much more hung up on
what a woman looks like and women are more hung up on what they themselves
look like.  I know plenty of women who date or are married to less than
attractive men.  You see it all the time,
especially in these movies where the old guy gets the young hot thing.  Get
real!  Women are more willing to look beyond looks (not always, but more so)
and get to know the man.  How about asking your readers if they would date
a less than appealing woman with a terrific personality rather than a
gorgeous model that bored them to tears?  Women are so busy judging what
other women are wearing and doing with their hair.  You think men stare at
women?  Men will walk into a room where a party is going on and check out
the women in there.  I think women (on the average, of course) will walk
into the same room and also check out the women, prior to checking out the
men.  Sizing up the competition, so to speak.  I have this girlfriend who is
tall, big boned and can stand to lose about fifty pounds or so.  She is
average looking, but being overweight does not help her out.  The worst part
about her though is that she is so pissy half of the time.  I have known her
for ten years and I tolerate her well enough, but at moments even I have had
enough.  The point here is that she does not have a real problem with women,
but she has a problem with good looking women.  If we go out together she
announces to anyone that will listen that I am in a commited relationship
and that I am going to marry my boyfriend, because she feels every guy meets
me and wants me.  Maybe compared to her that is true, but not because I am
prettier but rather because she is plain miserable to be around all the
time.  I guess we are our own worse enemy.


(Commenting on: "STEPHANE - You could say,"Would you like to feel connected
with someone?" Run if she says no congruently."):

NightLight9 responds: I don't think this is really necessary, just affirm
her response and continue the pattern from the point of describing. The
"would you like to feel this connected ..." Puts a lot of pressure on her
to respond in way that puts her out on a limb. One of the things about
these patterns is "You go first" and an important part of you going first is
it clears the way so she can easily and effortless go down the path without
risk. This forces her to commit more and you don't go first. The other
reason I don't like this is that if you are wrong as to why she is saying
(calibrating this is hard) then this is the wrong path. Just keep going and
calibrate her response knowing that you may have 1 strike against this

(Commenting on: "STEPHANE - I don't worry about it, because my style of using
patterns is very blatant.  There isn't a single doubt in her mind that I'm
really talking about US
when I run a 'Discovery Channel'!"):

NightLight9 responds: When I run my version of the Discovery Channel
pattern I start it with "...most interesting show on the Discovery Channel.
It was
about building the perfect attraction."  Wait for response. The
wheels almost always turn as she tries to figure out what kind of
attraction. This always gives me a chuckle.

(Commenting on:  "STEPHANE - Now this is the part where I need to apologize to
anyone on this list that is religious. I'm sorry."):

NightLight9 responds: Talk about an ambiguity or what? :-)

(Commenting on: "MARKB - Rent the movie (Tao of Steve) and let me know what
you think."):

NightLight9 responds: My favorite PU movie and one that really captures a
big part of my skill set. This is an incredibly powerful mechanism for PU
in non-bar scenarios.
On another note, I too have been very sick in the last two weeks and I just
can't PU in that mode, but my mind has remained quite active. Last night I
felt better and I was on fire for about an hour, then I got sick again
:-( Regardless, I discovered what my attitude for being the alphamale is.
I actually say and believe "I own the place."  Meaning I can do what ever I
want here and everyone will like me because this is my place. Don't know
why it works, just that it does.


I've got a question on a special situation; what extra measures do guys on
this list take when the girl you're working on (church pussy again, in this
case) has only had sex with one man, particularly if it's her last BF. For
me it's a cold shutdown: I assume she's probably still in love with
him.  How do you guys (especially your friend, Stephane) handle this?

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Comments on this product from Tony B.:
I thought I might drop you a quick line regarding some of the more popular sites that have been seen within this "seduction community". After seeing several terrible reviews and "flames" from, I decided to make a decision for myself based upon my own ideas of what could be offered on the Seven Magic Words product and after several months of reading great novels about how to attract women and multiple posts about how women are most attracted to men, I STILL found the site to be beneficial. After joining the site, I was happy to learn all the new techniques that I have never seen on any list and that alone made it worth the money. I am not typically the type of person that spends money on a site especially a seduction site, I would rather pay for some audio or video, but the information that was offered was different and unequal to anything I have seen in the past.  At any rate, I know you wanted a review.. and I have actually come to know the owner, and he puts more attention in his members area than I would expect to see from any other site.

Not only does this next site give you an unconditional 1 year no risk money back guarantee, but it stands alone and it’s program is unmatched. Right now they’re doing a Free Trial period, and I’d take advantage of this while you can. The site reads "Learn the proven secrets for meeting, attracting, and seducing women. From A – Z, you’ll discover the most advanced techniques for picking up women ever developed." Check out their Free Trial (before it ends) and you’ll see why their members like this program so much.


Here’s another one which I think has been reviewed here in the past but I haven’t gone through the old emails to check. Do You Want To Know A Simple, Two Minute Hypnotic Technique That Lets YOU Secretly Put Any Woman Into An Instant Trance And Persuades Her To Ask YOU Out?

Advanced Macking has one of the most enticing websites. An updated review would also be welcome.

This one also looked pretty interesting. Information on breakups and loving-styles.

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The Ultimate Guide to Powerful Relationships is only $8.95 and looks very interesting. Comments, please.

Plus! Free Survey Results of Women Using Personals for SexThe Guide contains the following Inside Secrets: Replying to ads – how to get noticed and get a date for hot sex.   Placing ads – how to beat the competition and get lots of replies How to handle follow up communication to keep her interested. Examples of replies that worked on us. You can just copy and paste these into your ads or replies. Saves you time and increases your chances! A directory of the best websites for meeting hot women! Sick of chicks who are only into cybersex and nothing else! The Guide contains a list of the best adult personals sites.

A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write hypnotic language to make others obey your command.

Arte’s New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman’s g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend – but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully.

Check this out.

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Cliff’s Comment: The following are all recommended but clicking on the links and buying from them doesn’t send any money back here (it is also recommended that the sponsors of these sites consider setting this up — from the little experience I have had since I started the commercial section a couple of weeks ago, I think you are missing a lot of business by not doing this):


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