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2/20/02 4:51:07 PM Eastern Standard Time


David Update:
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also available for in person and/or telephone consultations.  He's had some
spectacular results, and you will be reading much more about this soon.
Please contact me for pricing and other details.


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This is a field report from 2/13/02, I've been into the online seduction
cult for about two years but I'm still a beginner. Comments and criticism
are especially welcome.  Me and my friend went to student night at a local
country western bar. One cool thing about student night is that it's only
18 and over so many young hotties were present throughout the night. I've
been brainwashed by Mystery so my goal for the night was just do alot of
approaches and gain as much experience as possible.
Once me and my friend got into the bar and I got my drink it was game on. I
spotted a chick sitting alone by the bar and did Mystery's ESP opener and
then proceeded to a mentalism 101 trick. After my wrong prediction I said,
"I must admit, I'm not really a psychic, but most of the time when you ask
a person to think of a vegetable they'll think of a carrot..."  We then
fluffed a bit and she said that she was waiting for her brother and she
told me that she was a dancer and that she was not currently working. I
asked her what her stage name was and she said it was "Harley."  Once I
found out that she was a dancer, it made me little nervous and
self-conscious. Like I was thinking to myself "Oh shit, this girl's a
stripper, better not fuck this up..." We fluffed a bit more and I ejected
shortly after that. In retrospect, I should have kept going, but I was
proud of myself for not hesitating on my approach.
I later approached two girls that looked really bored. And being a master
of utilization (not really), I used the opener "are you bored?" She talked
about how she had been there for a while and wanted to leave. I then
entertained her with another mentalism trick and this time I was right. I
then told her about how it took years of training for me to develop my
psychic skills.
Overall this chick wasn't too exciting so I moved on. I was a little
non-productive for the next 5-7 minutes and I was having feelings of
hesitation and lacking confidence. I then stopped a hot girl that was
walking by me and used Mystery's Elvis opener. She had a pretty good
attitude and energy which is always a plus. After I asked her to guess the
real color, she said blond and I was like "close, it was dirty blond, but
that's pretty good, gimme five." Right after she slapped my hand she just
walked away. Anyone have any idea how I can prevent this in the future?
I then walked around a little more, and I hesitated a split second too long
quite a few times. A little too much internal dialogue. I walked down to
the dance area, but I didn't like it too much because it was a little too
loud so I walked back to the quiet area. As I was walking back, I saw four
little girls by the dance floor. I said, "you girls look really bored! You
should be down on the dance floor." This one responded by saying that they
don't know any of the dances and
that's why they're not on the dance floor. We fluffed for about a minute,
but I was unable to get control of the situation and display my alphaness.
For a minute, I was just standing there while the girls were talking. This
happens quite often. Usually because either I won't be feeling very
confident if I don't initially get a good reaction or I can't think of
anything to say or both.
I ejected soon after and I was feeling pretty good by now; I had
successfully talked my way into a decent state. These two girls (both hot)
were standing close to the door and I did Craig's classic opener: "Are you
guys shy or something... I've been standing here for like three minutes and
you haven't even said hi..."
This was the first time I had ever used this one and I was proud that I
finally did. Only one of the girls heard me (I'll work on projecting my
voice better) so I ended up talking to her. She responded by saying "Oh,
I'm sorry, I didn't see you there." She had kind of an angry/impatient tone
and she told me that her and her friend were about to leave. Once again, I
really think of anything to say and just stood there for 20 seconds before
removing myself.
It was gearing toward the end of the night (I had only been there for a
little over an hour but I had school the next day), so I only did a few
more approaches. I then tested out a semi-neg that I had came up with. I
walked up this girl wearing leather pants and I said, "are those pants
pleather?" She got all pissed off and said "No, I only wear the real
thing." I've found that negs don't really work well as openers but I had to
try it anyway. I think it will be a good neg once I use it after talking to
the chick for a bit. Her angry vibe threw me off and me and my friend left
after that. One of my best approaches occurred after I had walked out the
door and I said to this chick "Hi, how's it going? I haven't seen you in
such a long time..." She laughed at that. I then did the pleather line and
she said "yes it is." I then talked about how I had just asked the same
question to another girl and she got all pissed off and how some people can
be so rude. She then said "well, you're not supposed to ask girls those
kinds of questions." My friend interjected and asked if she was
leaving.  She said yes and that she was waiting for a friend. And I then
said "wow, you have friends? That's cool" That's officially my all-time
favorite neg I use it almost every time I can and it always has the desired
effect. We fluffed a little more and I said something like. "You're pretty
cool, you have a pretty good personality, I'd rate you about a 7 out of
10." That went over well and she said something like "that's all?" I said,
"Well, I don't know you that well." She said, "yeah, not yet."  This was a
good sign and we had some more fun conversation after that. Once I sensed
she was interested, however, I got a little nervous because I started
thinking "Oh shit, this chick kind of likes me.  Gotta get the number..." I
then put unwanted pressure on myself. I could have kept going but I decided
to leave. I told her to give me a hug before I left and she did. Overall, I
had a quite a good night and I'm happy that I'm finally getting back into
the picking up chicks mode. Practice makes perfect. Once again Feedback is


> Tristan: This says alot about his character in my opinion...In short,
Ross has profoundly changed my life. Not a day goes by where I'm not
grateful for all he has done. I seriously encourage guys to approach SS
with an open mind, you'll be surprised at how much impact it can have on
you and all those around you...

Halbster: When you consider wealth as a measure of the value and service a
person gives back to society, it amazes me that Ross isn't yet giving Bill
Gates a run for his money.


AXIOM I. Odds that the women picked up in the scenes described here, have
never been picked up by a stranger before, are slight.
AXIOM II. Odds that the suave operators who picked her up before you did,
had never
done that before are slight.
Conclusion: The joint probability that neither of the two had ever quickly
a sexual relationship with someone who not long before was a stranger, is
infinitesimally small.
Conclusion: Odds of at least one having a social disease and spreading it
go up.
AXIOM III. That before this column's advice, its advisees had never before
entered a sexual relationship with a relative stranger, may initially
lessen their
likelihood of giving another a social disease, but if offers no protection
getting one (to pass on later).
Conclusion: As such very social behavior increases so do the odds of getting a
social disease.
How do your readers avoid terminal, debilitating, or disfiguring social
Frogman suit? Space suit? Just talk about sex? Just think about it?

Clifford: Obviously social diseases are a very real risk today - I don't
know what others do but I always use protection (no exceptions) and usually
pay a lot of attention to what I see and my gut before I do anything with
someone.  I don't think anyone wants to just fold up and retire from going
out with women because of the risks out there - you have to use your head,
common sense and be as careful as you can be.  From my experience, there
are some people who will be too spooked to do anything and certainly there
will be others who will just take their chances and ignore all the
warnings.  As in most things in life, moderation is probably the best
course.  And for some the actual act is not as important and getting to the
point where, through their skills, they can succeed but don't actually do
anything.  So a lot of it depends on your goals - finding one special woman
is a perfectly legitimate direction as well, in which case your risks can
be greatly limited.


> HitmanPT: This is exactly how the media moulds people...Movies, music,
TV creates the AFC's. Any movie as some sort of love story, the guy always
supplicates! Most of the guys really think that giving the girl her every
wish will get them laid because that is what the media tells them. This
kind of mentality is everywhere even in the music we hear...really, just
listen to wheatus "Teenage Dirtbag" or 3 doors down "Loser"... I mean
c'mon...this is practically telling people that being a loser is
being a loser you can get girls! You can get girls by being a loser.. if
you pay : ) Anyway...I continue hearing all types of music, and seeing good
movies...but I (and I believe all guys on this list) know that you can't
take examples from movies (of course there are exceptions, like James Bond
and such). In almost all movies, the guy that gets the girl supplicated in
some form.

Insider: Yes, HitmanPT, that is very true! This shit is everywhere. I can
recall one example myself during my more influential years watching the
popular TV show "Three's Company". What a cheesedick Jack Tripper was!
Hence, I'm sure that was bad for me. But this crap is still around in
practically everything. I haven't seen any of the James Bond flicks with
Pierce Brosnan, but from what I understand, the Bond movie with Michele Yeo
who played the token "chyck" was the movie where Bond was more "politically
correct". The character played by Yeo was controlling him. So if you want
to use James Bond for modeling, stick with the early Sean Connery movies --
the real true Bond!
A very important point here: and this sounds very elitist, but nonetheless
is a fact. This group, which includes Ross Jeffries, SS,»
and all the contributors to ss, the fastseduction website, and Clifford's
newsletter are really a special breed. It should be noted that we
essentially are laying the ground work for new change in this field. I know
a friend of mine who is a respected psychiatrist, and when I explain this
to him he looks at me as if I'm something that fell out of a tree. I
printed out the opening page from Ross Site -- and
I will be presenting it to him next time we meet at the usual watering
hole. I will kindly inform him that if he ever has any male patients with
romance problems, to not just tell the poor bastard to "accept it", to at
least advise that there is something out there worth trying. We'll see how
much of an open mind he has.

Regarding as to whether or not the videos on are fake
or not: if you simply go to the opening page on it
opens with the disclaimer. The disclaimers are there for legality reasons,
but nobody really bothers to read them, and this passage was taken from
that page a few paragraphs down:
"... All activity is staged and discussed in advance of filming and every
reasonable precaution is taken to insure the health and safety of the
Well, this proves my theory... it's all staged shit!

Clifford: I watched some of the videos. They may be faked, but the girls
were pretty convincing in the beginning so I am not sure.  Maybe it's me,
but I think the guy was a bit too rough with total strangers to be
believable.  If you were an 18 year old girl and went for a modelling
shoot, and a guy starts slapping your ass or pulling your hair, I would
think you'd be pretty scared and get out of there pretty quickly.
You will notice most of them have piercings or tattoos, so these are all
pretty wild girls to start with.  You never know - this guy could have
interviewed dozens to have found the few who really went for it.  I liked
the way on a couple of them he drops some hints about "naughty girls" and
they just jumped at that opportunity.
> Mystery: What I find so curious about this statement is that it doesn't
go with my reality. If I just sit there, I will NEVER get a girl to
approach me. I will NEVER get a girl by my looks alone. If I come in with 2
hotties on my arm, I may have attracted some interest and curiousity but
girls will NEVER show IOIs if I don't express some alphamale behaviors
fast. This debate "looks over skill" is so old. and the truth is, the only
ones who bring it up are those who aren't getting laid. There are ugly guys
getting laid all the time ... they just have the knowledge to look like
they are getting laid and therefore they don't look so ugly. Try this
experiment today and whenever you remember to: next time you are out
somewhere, look around. Look at the guys. Look at ONE guy. Ask, "is this
guy getting laid?" Yes or no. Do this one by one with all the guys you see.
You will likely say yes to some and no to others. Then you'll notice you
say yes to  those with girls or smiling more and no to those who are alone,
not smiling, unshaven, etc. Then after all this, ask yourself a question:
"Do I look like I'm getting laid?" This is a great exercise. You may not
exactly know WHY you answer yes rather than no or vice versa, but you will
get a 'feel' for the difference. Then you can apply your observations upon
yourself to change your image to appear like you are getting it. Funny
thing is, you know how you can judge whether some guy is a fucker or not?
Well, so can girls. And they do. (Refer to copycat mating topic).

Insider: Hey Mystery, I appreciate your method and hopefully will be able
to attend one of your seminars. My experience has also been, that no matter
what, despite the feminazism in America that presumably states how
empowered women are, and how they are able to take initiatives, the fact is
when it comes to the social graces here in the States, it's the man that's
supposed to make the first move. If a chyck wants a man, then she'll make
every effort possible to allow him to strike up conversation, but she will
not make the first move. One common example is the "proximity" game that
some chycks play, which I have experienced personally [see the seduction
guide on ]. In extreme cases, some chycks
will in fact
simply pick a fight with a guy just to get dialog going, which I have also
experienced myself. Examples like this happen because a lot of chycks
simply feel it's soooo demeaning to simply introduce oneself to the man
[The HOT looking ones I am referring to here, not the pigs]. The cases of
the millionaire rock star are different, but the chycks that throw
themselves at these guys are essentially, in my opinion worthless whores
anyway. I'm assuming that when you mean alpha-male behaviors, that means
you have to approach the group, YOU are the one to have to take action. Am
I correct here?


> Benkind: This makes sense but one of the things that I think doesn't get
talked about enough is that "letting" a woman make a bunch of choices ISN'T
NICE! You're not "letting" her make choices, you are "forcing" her to make
choices. Sometimes a woman will suggest something, but lots of times they
have no idea where they want to go or what they want to do. How is forcing
them to figure that out being selfish? It's being lazy! You're giving her a
job not a choice. And let's be clear --women don't wish to be in total
control! That's why they get angry when you "let" them do it. They don't
want to have to worry about the details MOST of the time.

HitmanPT: That's another way to look at this point. HBsmoker (read article
below) received a call from a guy to ask her out for a coffee, then she
tells him to choose the place and the guy doesn't know where to go and asks
her to choose. The girl was pissed, but she choose a place then hung up the
phone and started saying bad things about this guy: "Tomorrow, I'll be here
again, but this time with this loser, he never makes a decision, I just
hate guys like that". I believe this proves your point.

HitmanPT: I met HBsmoker for a coffee yesterday, it was all going well:
good kino, I sat close to her, she's very talkative. This is a typical club
girl, almost everyday she's at a club (I don't really like these kind of
girls), gets hit on by many guys, etc. I realize that early on in the
conversation so I was planning my strategy to be different from other AFC
guys. I don't think this is the kind of girl that I can apply SS, but I did
it anyway and ran a few patterns. At one moment of the conversation, she
talks about how she gets hit on so many times in clubs (I didn't meet her
in a club) and then she says: "you know, my BF is really big and a captain
in the army so he scares all the guys away"!  Fuck...this really screwed me
up.  I've already had some problems involving some military guys. Don't get
me wrong...I workout and practice kickboxing, I'm not afraid of any regular
guy out there, but these guys are fucking crazy, one of them once
threatened me with a gun for hitting on his girl. Anyway, I immediately
stopped kino, and stopped using SS. At the end of the date she tells me:
"Me and my boyfriend are almost over, call me next week". I'm not going to
call, with so many girls out there, why should I try to fuck a military
man's girl? She's not even a 10, just a 9.3.  Not worth the trouble. Do you
guys ever had any trouble evolving angry BFs?


Franky the Tux:
> Ciz: According to the Chick Logic manual, girls are not motivated by
guilt and do what they want at the time without thinking about
consequences. Chicks are motivated by good/bad, guilt is a second tier
emotion which requires reflection about their conduct, and most are
incapable of  attaining this level of cognition. As we know, girls do what
they want at the time.

Franky the Tux: Is there really such a thing as Chick Logic Manual? Where
can I get it? If
none exists it sounds like an opportunity for someone to research and
create one and maybe make some money. I know I would buy it.


Sean F:
I really want to get this stuff figured out, I feel that I'm spending too
much time studying and thinking about this women business. I want to get to
the point where I have some simple understandings about myself and
attracting women, and not have to worry too much about it anymore because I
need to devote my energy to other projects. I feel there has been some
ground breaking things discussed on this list.
One of those is David's comment about not caring at all about what a woman
thinks about you. He says that's the #1 rule. Why? I think about what it
communicates, and to me it communicates qualities that are attractive to
women. It conveys an "I don't care" attitude which communicates strength,
which is attractive. And that you're not desperate. It says that you don't
need her approval, and you'll continue doing things as you wish because
that's who you are and that's how you live, among other things.  Another is
DD's discovery of the combination of cocky/funny. I've thought a lot about
why that works, and I think the reason that works is because it also
indirectly communicates that you don't really care, you're not asking for
her approval, and you're going to say as you please and entertain yourself
at the least, and have fun doing it. It's attractive because of what it
CONVEYS, more than anything. Chicks are attracted to Motley Crue because of
what they convey. They like Jerks because of what they convey,
and apparently they are willing to put up with their abuse because the
other qualities are so strong and appealing to them.  And Mark B's method
of being direct and totally honest about your intentions. Again this
communicates strength, and an "I don't give a fuck, I'm going to say what's
on my mind" attitude which is attractive. It's more of what you are
communicating by being a certain way that's attractive. I've noticed a
pattern, and it's what all these different techniques and methods convey.
They all convey traditional masculine characteristics.
Strength, independence, self-assuredness, confidence and an ABUNDANCE
mindset. If you are coming from a scarcity/poverty mindset, then there is
really no way to communicate these things as effectively as if you were
coming from an abundance mindset. So, it's essential to think in terms of
abundance instead of scarcity. I think it's also a process of negation. If
you take all the things that are generally unattractive to women, you'll
find that they are all poverty/scarcity type shit.
If you get rid of these things, what's left? On the opposite side of the
spectrum, you find:
They are all abundance type states. And they happen to be what women think
of as traditional masculine qualities. So, be a man, act on your desires as
a man. I think it's far more efficient to think in terms of "being" than on
"techniques" or "game." Then you don't really have to worry about
techniques as much, although they can have their place. David has been with
over 500 women, right? And he is over 50, balding and overweight from what
I remember? And he doesn't really have any "game" he just "is." He doesn't
give a fuck, he's totally congruent and lives life the way he wants to
live. I love it. That's absolutely amazing to me.  One of the best things I
ever learned from Ross is not the SS stuff, but the clearing exercise that
he teaches. The first time I did that, a woman gave her friend a note to
give to me, saying that she thought I was hot and wanted me to call her.
I've had a girl come up to me out of the blue and tell me that she thought
I was beautiful. Women never come up to me like that. What am I silently
communicating differently after I do the exercise? After I do it, I'm
totally relaxed and I feel alive and great. It's definitely on the
abundance side of the spectrum and not on the poverty side. I
think that may be the key factor. Because I notice women responding to me
very differently when I do it. Also I do a daily stretching routine that
gets rid of any tension or stress that I accumulate throughout the day, and
doing that seems to help as well. When you're relaxed, you feel better and
you think better, when your body is relaxed the mind follows, and vice versa.
So, the most important thing to be is how I am internally. It is the key
factor, I believe. And my thoughts. Your thoughts are always projecting
outward. I'm in sales and I've noticed that all the techniques in the world
are useless if I'm in a bad state or thinking negative thoughts. Weird.
So, I'm wondering, and maybe some of you NLPer's can chime in here, are
there only two Meta frames of mind from which all other frames are under? I
get the feeling you either come from a poverty frame, or you truly come
from an abundance frame, and it affects ALL areas of your life, not just
with women. If you can truly, 100% congruently come from a frame of
abundance, then what would happen? My guess is that everything you would
need to be
successful in any area would naturally follow, as long as you have the
desire for a particular area. Strength would naturally follow. Humor would
follow, as would confidence, a sense of fun, positive attitude, relaxed,
etc.  Comments?


I'm sure most of you work out in some form or another; this question is for
those who attend a gym.
I recently (a week ago) started attending the gym at my university. Of
course there are always cute girls, so I want to make the most of the
situation. I've done several approaches but, I've only had one success and
that was a fluke (we both had a lot in common - I didn't need to use much
game, just let her talk). I believe I've identified the problem: when I go
to work out I am very serious - not the best mindset for PU - and I can
even see it on my face in the mirror. I will not sacrifice the quality of
my workout, but I would appreciate any advice on gym PU, besides the
obvious (don't stink, wear gym clothes, etc). I have made friends with many
of the guys and DO talk to the ladies, I just can't get my mind into it
while I'm working out. Any openers would be appreciated (right now my only
one is for the cardio room "you'll have to slow down - you're gonna make me
look bad" or a "30 min? That's pretty good. I usually go about 4 hours but
I'm cutting it short today.").
I should mention I'm not a newbie to exercise. There are other, bigger guys
in the gym (of course) but I can sometimes stand out.


Re: " have friends?"
This is a question directed mainly to people who use SS more so, but I was
wondering what process you use on women that are attracted to bad boys,
firemen, biker types or other macho men? I had always thought that SS might
seem too eloquent for them.

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Plus! Free Survey Results of Women Using Personals for SexThe Guide contains the following Inside Secrets: Replying to ads – how to get noticed and get a date for hot sex.   Placing ads – how to beat the competition and get lots of replies How to handle follow up communication to keep her interested. Examples of replies that worked on us. You can just copy and paste these into your ads or replies. Saves you time and increases your chances! A directory of the best websites for meeting hot women! Sick of chicks who are only into cybersex and nothing else! The Guide contains a list of the best adult personals sites.

A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write hypnotic language to make others obey your command.

Arte’s New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman’s g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend – but I could have done without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have watched it again more carefully.

Check this out.

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