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LoneFing3r Newbie     OMG some of you guys are so damn, tantalisingly close!! A lot of the previous posts seem to be lacking in only one area...the end game. Just as there is a 3 second rule, there is also a time to close with women. If you were to play chess and your opponent saw inevitable checkmate in 3 moves... but you took 20...do you think he would respect you as a superior player?  Perhaps you had TOO MUCH respect and fear of your opponents position and skill and didnt see you oppertunity?? Now when a girl lets you caress the small of her back (as a pervious poster experienced) she has indeed POSITIONED herself for checkmate.When you procrastinate and lose the momentum of your seducing, the HB in question will doubt your confidence/sexual drive.   Honestly once ive got my hand on a girls lower back only 2 words enter my head...your mine! Because there is no way you can have your hand there without interest on her behalf (unless youve got a serious case of NIce guy) and from this point you expand on kino. Maybe you Lead her onto the dance floor and take it from there? Or perhaps when you face her your hand wanders jus slightly  to the side of her hip , you create eye contact with pure confidence look her in the eyes and let her see that your not afraid to take what is yours. The girls back is like a steering wheel on a car...you take her where YOU want to go.  When you dont capitalise things get worse...not better, never ask a girl for a kiss (unless this is your techinique and done with absolute PURE confidence). You position her and you Gently, showing controled desire hold her as you wanted 2 for the last hour...and then my friend the kiss will come. Happy hunting :D Total Posts: 8 | Joined April 2006 | Posted on: 7:47 am on April 25, 2006 | IP Spastic Newbie     First time poster.. I guess the popularity of "TheGame»" has exponentially increased the interest in the Seducing world... Sadly I must admit I found it the same way... But I must say I am a little dissapointed and worried with what I am hereing and seeing. It seems too few actually fully got the point of the book, while this all had it's advantages and possibilities.. Te conclusion is what more of U guys need to focus on... It is mostly unnneccesary, Most of those who became very good using common sense philosophies (at least that is how I see it)... Ended up becoming the antithesis of the philosophies they preach. Example... most of the PUA's claim u should create ur frame and not let a girl change it. But U end up making Ur life a frame dependent on  ur abiliy to sleep with women, which in itself is a slave to womaninzing. I appreciate those giving advise, but for those of U who read the game and suddenly tot U were on point to becoming Style, I suggest U read again. Example: there was a discusion between Style and Tyler where someone asked why they couldn't get as good as he was and the difference was having life experiences. The other was one of the PUA's getting sick and tired of talking game all the time while ignoring such enjoyable pleasures as going to the Beach.. Don't get me wrong I love women and gaming as much as the next mand (actually it is even highly possible that I am just a Jealous Natural who hates the fact that there are sites now selling skills I intuitively honed over the years, while they can pick up even more dangerous moves) But in reality Probably not. I am just worried for a generation of people who develop sex searching skills with no long term applications. Mystery the supposed best PUA ever couldn'tkeep a woman to save himself.... All this lessons embed in the game seems to fly over the head of way too many folks... I have read so many advice that are so bad it's not even funny...... In 5 to 10 years the full implication of this movement would come to bare, and a lot of us would have been the better not even knowing any of these tricks. ----- Believe in yourself, and the rest  will follow Total Posts: 3 | Joined June 2006 | Posted on: 2:39 pm on June 6, 2006 | IP riverspecialist Newbie     " Or you can just fake it until you make it.  Dude just pretend you’re confident"  ...and youll become confident.  This advice is so good.  My parents are both haters and i think they turned me into one (u guys r the firts to hear that, this is a recent revelation).  At some point in highschool i somehow just decided I would act happy,confident, fun, etc and now - 6 years later - i dont even remember the last time i sincerely felt awkward or uncomfortable.  Being embarrassed or spiteful is more like a funny gimic i put on for show from time to time if itll get a laugh. Total Posts: 18 | Joined June 2006 | Posted on: 10:27 am on June 16, 2006 | IP Lukeyboy8 Newbie     Hey all hows it going. i've got a good stragegy for going out and obserbing all this, study and memorise patters, openers and closing a girl, on monday,tuesday,wednesdays over and over again, then go out Thursdays,fridays,saturday,sundays if u can and go out in the field just make a habbit of making girls smile first by saying u know i bet you have a beautifull smile say that to every girl u see and i bet some of them will start a conversation for you etc etc, i've been doing this for a whole month now since reading this site and getting ross jefferies BHSC and the game, and it's been awsome. girls love guys with confidence once u have the guts to walk up to girls with confidence what u say isn't that important. On a second note why go fo that girl you've known for ages? just go up to random girls and then see how much u like her etc etc, but if u do want her and u know all her girlfriends go chat her girlfriends up and make them wanting to get you and she will be jelouse of u and start showing more affection for you. on the LJBF line what is wrong with haveing female friends all my friends are female atm only have a a couple of male friends who are drinking budys and that's it, but if the girl does say that and u still want more, run a few patterns on her then NEG her3times depands how good she is, if she doesn't respond then, then just ignore her for a few weeks then go  back to her and tell her about the girls you've been out with etc etc. It works wonders ----- *lukey* Total Posts: 38 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 11:17 pm on Sep. 18, 2006 | IP Lukeyboy8 Newbie     i forgot to mention in the letter above, how on earth do u get you're hand on the lower back with out looking like a creep, i know how to touch there hair by saying your hair looks nice and feel soft then reach over to there hair and touch it, but u can't say that to her and say hey your back looks nice and go and touch it especially if the seats ur sitting in makes it awkward? etc ----- *lukey* Total Posts: 38 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 11:23 pm on Sep. 18, 2006 | IP

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