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subwaydub Newbie     In Texas, negs are not as fruitful if over used, anyone noticed? (Edited by subwaydub at 11:35 am on Sep. 4, 2006) (Edited by subwaydub at 11:13 am on Feb. 1, 2007) ----- No soldier stays behind. Total Posts: 4 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 11:35 am on Sep. 4, 2006 | IP timeforacatnap Junior Member     hey there, negs are a very useful tool and very powerful, you'll realise just how much a girl can hoook from one or two negs. however negs arnt as easy to use as they seem and its very easy to over neg and end up in a neg spiral, especially if your running game on a girl you know eg a friend. first a neg is a disqualifier and a DHV, your intending to make the girl selfconcious NOT insult her. second, (from The Approach) in the VAC model (value attainability compliancy), negs serve to lower your attianability whilst forcing her compliancy...this means you become less attainable and thus she has to comply more to you in order to gain your affection third, eventually you hit A2/C1 (M3) so you need to show her some level of mutial compliancy, so at some point if you neg it will distroy all your efforts. thus to conclude, the more effective way of using negs is as a punishment, or to level her value if you perceive her to be higher value, and mostly just to disarm bitchshields. personally i havent used negs for a while as evetually you get to a point of not needign to neg but regardless you ought havea  few up your sleeve. www.dynamicdatinglifestyle.com ----- signing on with mystery method» in UK in august Total Posts: 75 | Joined Nov. 2005 | Posted on: 5:30 pm on Sep. 5, 2006 | IP aesop Member     catnap is right on the money.  I think the first neg should be a soft one, b/c you basically want to throw them off... pull them from their comfort zone.  That is the most important thing about negs, its the fact that other guys never do it!  Other guys tell them how pretty they are blah blah blah, but you're doing the total opposite and it shocks them. It is true that too many negs can just piss a girl off so you need to spread them out, dont act like you're just being a dick.   Also, the # of negs depends on the girl.  A 7 or 8 may only require 2 negs while a stunning 9 or 10 might require 5 or 6 negs!  It all depends on the situation. ----- Pray for a good harvest, but continue to hoe!! Total Posts: 150 | Joined Sep. 2005 | Posted on: 4:10 pm on Sep. 12, 2006 | IP President Newbie     As you can see I am a newbie, but in my experience you can use as many negs as the conversation will allow.  For me it is not so much about disarming bitchshields as it is about instagating playful banter.  I have begun successful relationships that revolved around "negs."  They became a playful game that usually ended in my patented "tickle fights" and passion.  For instance if you are one on one with a girl and you approach with a "neg" by saying something like "That is a cute skirt my mom just bought the same one" (with a big smile on your face) chance are she will try to come back.  Then it becomes a battle of wits.  And when it concludes I will anounce to the room that "YOU'RE SASSY" before excusing myself.  This is almost always effective on intellegent girls.  I will then send them a few signs throughout the night that I am interested and close by asking for the number.  It almost nevers fails and it does a few important things.  The girl will usually talk with her friends who will, if it is appropriate, (ie not married, not seeing anyone) tell her to go and talk to you again before she misses her chance.  She will sit trying to work up the nerve.  If she does great, if not when you grab her at the end of the night and ask she will be relieved that she didn't blow her chance.  When I follow with a phone call the next day or two I usually start be refering back to the best neg that came up in our conversation whether the original or a better one that came up in the conversation.  So to make a long story long "as many as keep the conversation comfortably moving forward" has been my experience. Total Posts: 5 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 9:16 pm on Sep. 21, 2006 | IP Parnassus Newbie     President got it. Theres simply no such thing as too many negs. As long as you're doing it properly every neg is going to improve your situation. Just be sure to do it tounge-in-cheek, they have to be ambigious and be delivered with a smile. Total Posts: 2 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 10:13 pm on Oct. 7, 2006 | IP TazDevil Newbie     I'm very new to this, this is my first post... (Just wanted to warn you, don't shoot me if i'm wrong) I just had a little question about what aesop said about # of negs. "Also, the # of negs depends on the girl.  A 7 or 8 may only require 2 negs while a stunning 9 or 10 might require 5 or 6 negs!  It all depends on the situation." Back to the question... wouldn't a neg hit harder if you told it to a 9 or 10 than a 7 or 8?   In that case wouldn't it be opposite, that you'd need fewer negs on a 10 than a 7?! On the contrary, it's harder to make a 10 feel less "on top of the situation"... in that case aesop would be totally right. (I guess he is) ----- Learning as fast as I can Total Posts: 4 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 7:55 am on Oct. 16, 2006 | IP aesop Member     Well, yes and no.   In theory a neg would affect a 10 more than it would a 7, but at the same time NEITHER of them are used to getting negs at all!  The point of a neg isn't to be direct and make them feel bad, it is simply to pull them out of their comfort zone and notice that you are different.  I keep my negs fairly soft.  I want them to have to think..."Did this guy just insult me?"  It makes it  a lot more fun if they arent sure and have to question everything. ----- Pray for a good harvest, but continue to hoe!! Total Posts: 150 | Joined Sep. 2005 | Posted on: 9:53 am on Oct. 16, 2006 | IP TazDevil Newbie     That was kind of what I thought... You have a few neg examples to share?! I just want to know what level of negativity you use... thanks for the adivce! ----- Learning as fast as I can Total Posts: 4 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 9:57 am on Oct. 16, 2006 | IP subwaydub Newbie     In Texa, what negs are useful? [/quote] ----- No soldier stays behind. Total Posts: 4 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 11:13 am on Feb. 1, 2007 | IP subwaydub Newbie     [quote]Quote: from subwaydub on 11:35 am on Sep. 4, 2006[br]In Texas, <a onMouseOver="showmenu(event,99,'cgi')" onMouseOut="delayhidemenu()"><span class="acm">negs</span></a> are not as fruitful if over used, anyone noticed? (Edited by subwaydub at 11:35 am on Sep. 4, 2006) (Edited by subwaydub at 11:13 am on Feb. 1, 2007) [/quote] ----- No soldier stays behind. Total Posts: 4 | Joined Sep. 2006 | Posted on: 11:34 am on Feb. 1, 2007 | IP

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