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MagicMan Newbie     Here is my terrible screw up, any advice how to fix this problem is welcome.  You see, I really am interested in this Chinese waitress at this local Japanese Restaurant I go to in Las Vegas, Shuseki.  a few monthes back, I tried approaching her, Here is how the conversation went from best of my memory: I started out by asking her a few questions like do you live around here, and refer to if she knows another waitress that works here.  She said yes, that waitress is very popular in here.  So I asked for her name, I know what her name was, I wanted to hear it from her.  She said her English name (which I didn't know, I knew her Chinese one).  So I said in reply, oh, I thought it was Shi.  She said, yeah, that's my Chinese name.  So thinking to myself... things are going well... I hope as I ran out of things to say but try desperately to keep it going.  So I asked if she knows any fun places around here, and what does she do on weekends in Las Vegas.  She said she hangs out with her friends.  So I try to end it by saying, it's nice talking to you, it would be cool if we hang out sometimes, is there a way I can contact you?  She then point to the business cards on the rack.  I said... yeah, I got one of those, I mean while you are not working.  She then said if she's not working, shes in school.  So I said, Hey, I think you look really pretty and its cool if we can get to know each other more (stupid me, never works).  She said, "well, I'll be working here every sunday at lunch, feel free to visit me any time~"  Cut story short, yeah, I left...  with nothing but my tail between my legs.   What I want to ask is... IS THER ANYWAY I can fix this?  I really do like the girl, she isn't tramppy like most girls I meet in Vegas.  She is like...  9 in my book.  Any advice, suggestions... comeback theories are welcome. ----- It's better risking to be called a player and find the person you want than waiting forever for a dream girl that might never come true. Total Posts: 2 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 4:44 am on Oct. 28, 2006 | IP mantis Newbie     Yeah man there is.. But its not going to be easy.  All you need to change is her perspective on you, right now she thinks your a lame ass afc.  You've gotta change that in some way.  The best way to go about this is to get a group of your socially best friends (guys and girls) and go there and seem like your really having a good time.  It'd help if a girl comes who seems to have an interest in you or something like that, body language is huge in these situations.. It hurt that you seemed desperate, cuz thats the worst thing ever.  I always tell people to never show any feelings and especially to not show feelings of "more than just friends" at first.  The best game can sometimes be indirect.  I usually choose this style because I hate being turned down.  I RARELY get turned down, ever.  When you get good you can sniff out girls who would dig you and your personality from a mile away.     So anyways.. The man thing here is to figure out a way to change her perspective on you as an AFC.  Being social and with a lot of friends will help out a lot.  Also, this is KEY, being able to read people is the biggest weapon you can have in picking up chicks. Why? Because there's so many variables that girls looks for in a guy you gotta know which ones will go for you.  Let me setup an example here.      For example, I myself posted previously that I can constantly get laid by 8's 9's and sometimes 10's without having ANY MONEY at all.  Seriously its sickening to my room mates because they know im broke and alwys see me scoring with decent lays.  So the thing I have to look for first off is a girl who isent influenced by money, or in reality turned off by the fact that I dont have any currently.  Always go for their weakness basically.  My strength is my game and my looks arnt bad either, but Im poor..  You GOTTA know your strengths and weakness when analyzing these women, its KEY.  So then after 5 minutes you can tell if its time to move on to the next target or get deeper into your current one.  The worst thing you can do is waste time on a bitch who doesent care about you, ive seen too much of it in my life.  IDK man i could be talking about this shit all day, if anyone has any questions IM me at desan2005... peace and happy hunting!! Total Posts: 4 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 7:58 pm on Oct. 28, 2006 | IP MagicMan Newbie     Thanks for the reply mantis.  If anyone is in the Vegas area and wanna hang out, drop me an AIM at Khanglong83 or add me to your myspace if you have one www.myspace.com/bruceleet Time to work on my game~ ----- It's better risking to be called a player and find the person you want than waiting forever for a dream girl that might never come true. Total Posts: 2 | Joined Oct. 2006 | Posted on: 2:17 am on Nov. 4, 2006 | IP

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