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Soma Newbie     I see a lot of mention of kino and touching to anchor emotions on this site and it seems to imply that you would do it whenever you needed, including being the first to initiate touching.  But if anyone has read Don Steele (who is referenced on this site as the expert in body language), he says that if a man touches a women first, he has killed the deal in most case.  Women more than likely recoil from being touched first.  He says that you should begin touching a women in the kino manner but you have to wait until the first touch FROM THE WOMEN (accidental or otherwise).  What are the thoughts about this? Total Posts: 5 | Joined May 2004 | Posted on: 10:01 am on May 19, 2004 | IP xxxloverboyxxx Newbie     Yes & No, I would say on the first date u should test the water & see the respond. If her respond is Kino back keep on doing it & u will end up in bed with her that is usually what I get from girls that respond in my kino. If not well u know the deal and don't wast time & money that girl. Total Posts: 24 | Joined June 2004 | Posted on: 10:18 pm on June 9, 2004 | IP alphaMALE Newbie     Well here's the deal. I want to start kino with a girl i'm talking too.. but wheres a good place to start touching her?? any good patterns for this?? ----- Just relax.. Total Posts: 4 | Joined Mar. 2005 | Posted on: 4:03 am on Mar. 30, 2005 | IP FLA Alpha Newbie     Sitting back and waiting for her to make the first move sounds like AFC style to me.  That is the excuse i hear from many of my friends as a cop out, she was not worth making a move on.  I say be the trend setter and get HER going rather than wait for her to "accidentally" touch you, and if she reciprocates the kino, theres your sign (you only need 3 to proceed) ----- You cannot Bitch until you try! Total Posts: 35 | Joined June 2005 | Posted on: 8:22 am on Sep. 23, 2005 | IP Tyranny Newbie     "he says that if a man touches a women first, he has killed the deal in most cases." Never read Don Steele.  Don't think I have to now.  If you're a newbie and you read this, it's just going to confuse you.  This technique is fine if you can manage it but not necessary.  That whole bit about women recoiling when touched first doesn't make all that much sense when you have opened a set and gotten a girl(s) interested.  The IOIs giveaway a girl's reception to being touched.  If you can finagle it that they can touch you ("Here, read my palm."  "Touch my scar."  "What do you think of this fabric?"  "Feel this thing", then so much the better.   But, really who cares?  Start making that physical connection when her eyes have popped open and she starts smiling/laffing/talking with you.  It doesn't matter if it's you or her that starts the touching.  Just keep it up.     ----- ANCIENT WEAPONS AND HOKEY RELIGIONS ARE NO MATCH FOR A GOOD BLASTER BY YOUR SIDE, KID.    Total Posts: 8 | Joined Dec. 2005 | Posted on: 3:53 am on April 1, 2006 | IP scrowme Newbie     When you read this, don't you realize your an afc? Be an ALPHA male, be confident and realize that she must struggle to have a chance with you. YOU are in charge, you LEAD, NO supplication ... be playfull, use kino with cocky attitude, use the handreading technique, be horny-funny, run patterns, use the wisdom on this site! ----- DO or DO NOT, there is NO try !                  -yoda- Total Posts: 14 | Joined July 2006 | Posted on: 8:18 pm on July 15, 2006 | IP

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