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vtrap2002 Newbie     Sometimes, when I ask girls what is there hobbies, I get the means values..like, usually its shit like "hanging out with my friends", "going to the mall", "watching TV", just plain old boring shit, etc..and, then, I would ask them, "What do you find so fulfilling about going to the mall?" or something...and, then...usually they get all confused and don't understand my question!?! So, my question is..how do you use eliciting values on a girl who is "boring"?? Total Posts: 3 | Joined Mar. 2002 | Posted on: 1:22 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 | IP Muthops Newbie     what about not using a specific word of yours (you used "fulfilling" )? Now, i know you read that particular word, but youīd like to remember, that itīs always better to use their own trance words. Some women can respond quite well to the word you chose, but some of them are going to remain ICE COLD. So when you ask this type of girl about her hobbies, give her (always positive) options, for example: "what do you like about it?", "or why do you like it?", maybe "you could tell me about the way you FEEL when doing that?". Shortly, be as flexible as you can when building up the questions, cuz one of themīs gotta reach the girl! ----- Deaf HBs are the hardest to get Total Posts: 3 | Joined Mar. 2002 | Posted on: 10:53 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 | IP Chill Newbie     ok man...lets say she says she likes to hang out at the mall, then ask her what store at the mall she likes, so lets say she likes to go to a & f, then ask her what is it about that store that she likes that much...in other words be more specific first. If she says she likes to hang out w/ friends ask her, WHERE she likes likes to hang out w/ her friends, then ask her why she likes to hang out there what about that place she likes so much..and form there she will give you a whole bunch of responses, if she is a talker or somewhat talker, if she is shy and doesnt have much to say, all i gotta say man is u better have some things interesting to say, and u will have to start talking to her more about yourself, thats why i like talkers so much because they will give u more information about themselves. <<<<Steve aka ..Chill Total Posts: 1 | Joined May 2002 | Posted on: 4:13 pm on Feb. 9, 2003 | IP Mimura Newbie     Girls like this (people like this in general, in fact) often have _actual_ interests that they are either embarassed to tell you about, or even too embarassed to actually DO. Like, for example, if a girl really likes board games, she is unlikely to have a lot of opportunities to do this and still fit in with her mtv-obsessed friends, and even if she has a seperate group of friends for fulfilling this interest, she probably wouldn't like to be thought of the way her "real" friends would think of those people. Unearthing it can be tricky, but this is pure gold, if you handle it right; a) You can bust on her for being insecure about it (I don't recommend busting on the interest, but rather agreeing with how great it is and instead busting on her for not having the confidence to do or talk about what she really likes.) b) If you can make her feel comfortable talking about her hidden interest with you, that gives you huge rapport already, not to mention a private path to her true self. Bonus points if you show at least mild disinterest in her fake "cover" interests, since she likely feels this way about them too. c) If it's the sort of interest you can participate in, and you give her a way to do it and still feel great about it (because she's with you, silly ^_^) she will feel relieved and excited with you at other times as well. and more.. Anyway, if you do get the sense that she's only talking about her "cover" interests, go for it. Act like it's obvious and you can read like an open book how she doesn't really much care for those things. ("You yourself just said those things were totally boring. I don't remember asking you to tell me what you find boring - I'll bet you have something you LOVE doing, but you're just embarassed to tell me about." If you're unsure about whether they're covers or not, and you're not confident enough to call her a liar (indirectly, of course ) have a wing do the unearthing while you're in the bathroom or something, then when you come back you can dive into how awesome you think it is that a girl would be into x y and z. ----- When we escape, it will be together. Total Posts: 3 | Joined July 2004 | Posted on: 2:58 pm on July 12, 2004 | IP

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