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Nemesis Rogue


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Hi guys,

By this I mean, it's all very well finding out that her trance words - on a variety of topics - are: "safe", "honesty", "free", "respect", "in tune with nature", "funny".

But how do you apply them to you - without repeating the obvious of "wouldn't it be great if..."

I mean, you EV about relationships and she is looking for "safe"& "honesty".
You then feed back something like "wouldn't it be great if you could meet someone who.....honesty."

Tnen she mentions horse riding makes her feel "at one with nature", "free" and like she is "flying."

So you make another patter about how great it would be to get those sensations.

You repeat how many times you get the chance. It may be 5 times in the night.

Won't it get repetitive?

Won't she pick up on the fact you are just regurgitating her thoughts?

I don't know if you are meant to wait an hour or so or whether you can feed tham back immediately but wouldn't she still pick up - even if you waited considerably before rementioning them?

Finally, how do you become that man or associate them to you. Confidence is easy but make her feel "safe" or she loves to be "free" - how do you associate them to you apart from saying "wouldn't it be great...."

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Total Posts: 4 | Joined June 2004 | Posted on: 3:46 pm on June 4, 2004 | IP
Nemesis Rogue


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Is it normal for people to read a post but not offer advice?

And only two people reading it?

What kind of forum is this?

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Total Posts: 4 | Joined June 2004 | Posted on: 1:01 pm on June 5, 2004 | IP
backindagame



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yeah, nobody likes to be first to respond....

you would think they would pick up on you using their words, but for them this is the way they speak so those words feel natural.

You aren't supposed to be regurgitating the same shit all the time. you are supposed to learn more about them to go deeper into their mind and then set the mood to bust your moves!

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Total Posts: 4 | Joined May 2004 | Posted on: 8:56 am on June 22, 2004 | IP
kevin620


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hey, most of these posts / articles are written by foreigners with broken english, so the things they say... their not cool, or smooth, you have to translate the meaning in what their saying to common language

basically, if this stage is bothering you, the best thing I can say, since noone else is responding, is that you have to be very improvisational. If direct regurgitation doesnt feel natural, which it doesnt for me either, your going to have to sort of mask it, if you don't do this, and just spit back what they say to you, theyll either notice that your acting unnatural, or your spitting their words back at them. Probably best thing for you (and the rest of us) is to get more practice.. best of luck man

(Edited by kevin620 at 5:00 am on July 11, 2004)

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Total Posts: 5 | Joined July 2004 | Posted on: 4:56 am on July 11, 2004 | IP
demo


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You meet a girl at a party and she says she values "honesty" and "respect."  So, you respond:

"I know what you mean.  Have you ever been having a conversation with someone (motion back and forth between you and her casually) and something about their expression or their voice as they were talking to you made you....feel totally open and free....like there was just this mutual respect....with me, its the greatest feeling.


Total Posts: 1 | Joined Aug. 2006 | Posted on: 9:37 pm on Aug. 19, 2006 | IP
 

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