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Buck Newbie     My philosophy is that women are attracted to certain physical features - height, muscularity, hair, face, eyes, but it makes absolutely no sense to beat oneself up because one lacks these characteristics.  Make the best of what you have, look as good as you can, and then just go for it.  Maybe you fail.  Maybe you fail a lot.  But what other choice is there?  To do nothing?  Give up? So from a man's perspective, looks are important in that you shouldn't look like a slob, but they don't matter, in that physical imperfection shouldn't discourage you.  It just doesn't matter.     ----- Buck Fortune favors the bold! Total Posts: 15 | Joined June 2001 | Posted on: 11:46 am on June 17, 2001 | IP Magnum Newbie     I think looks do matter, but they come below attitude and willingness to approach in the scale of importance. For example, I possess all of the qualities you mentioned except height (I'm 5"9), but I do bodybuilding and think I make up for it with my physique. Now, last year I was in the best physical shape of my life, but rarely had success with girls because I expected them to do most of the groundwork, and I was reluctant to approach. This year, though still in good shape I have cut down on my bodybuilding time due to work, but have been making more approaches and learning about the game with practise. This gets far better results than just standing around posing, no matter how good looking you are. However, it is important to look the best you can, especially if you are just starting out at the PU game. I'm a relative beginner, and I'm under no illusions that I would have got some of the girls I have without my bodybuilding or wearing nice clothes. If you have physical imperfections, the trick is to disguise them and draw attention to your good points. If you're overweight, work out a little, but if it's not noticable it shouldn't matter. If you look your best, than you don't give a chick an immediate reason to reject you. I think the most important part of the looks issue is wearing nice clothes which you feel comfortable in. If you feel in yourself that you look great, than that goes a long way towards instilling the confident attitude that you need to PU. Personally I have had most success when wearing a smart suit with a t-shirt to a dance club, but if you don't own a suit or that's not your style, fine. Just use common sense where chicks are concerned. If you're a punk and want to pull a punk chick at a rock concert, then by all means dress down. But if you're going to a dance club and want to score a hot blonde in a miniskirt, a baggy t-shirt and jeans isn't gonna cut it. Dunno whether this has been coherent or not, but hopefully it will help. Final piece of advice is that the real world is NOT Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. In my town, I very rarely see the hottest girls with guys who look like they are rich or model types. They always seem to be with just average looking guys who pay attention to their clothes, and who most importantly were willing to approach them in the first place. Total Posts: 26 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 7:47 am on June 18, 2001 | IP Buck Newbie     You hit on the crucial point which is to be comfortable in your own skin.  Physical appearances aren't so important as long as you are comfortable and confident.  Just today, I went into a convenience store after a four hour hike in the mountains, sweaty, covered with dirt, hair tangled up, and I got good eye contact and a smile from the chick at the counter.  Next thing you know, boom, I have here number.  (Granted I am an American living in Japan, so I already have a lot going for me.  Japan rules!) I try to model myself on the coolest guy who ever lived, Steve McQueen.  Now here is a scrawny guy, not very tall, not much to look at, but he got the chicks.  There is no doubt in my mind he could score even if he wasn't a star, (Certainly not as much) and only wearing chinos, sneakers and a greasy Tshirt.  It is all in the attitude.  He was one of the ultimate "bad boys."   ----- Buck Fortune favors the bold! Total Posts: 15 | Joined June 2001 | Posted on: 11:14 am on June 18, 2001 | IP Magnum Newbie     Having a role model is a great way for a newbie AFC to begin making changes. Some newbies have never been successful PUAs and have no idea how to go about becoming one, no matter how much they read about it. Just being able to have a clear picture in your mind of what a PUA looks like and how they act can help a great deal. Although Steve McQueen may be a legit example, I don't think the most famous real life PUAs are generally good gauges, as many are rock stars and millionaires who get laid mainly through their fame and money. I usually try to model my PU behaviour on various alpha male characters in movies, many of which are recommended on this site. My favourite examples are Valmont (Cruel Intentions), Daryl Van Horne (Witches of Eastwick), and Tyler Durden (Fight Club). All of these are good examples because you can easily imagine penniless, average looking guys behaving like these characters and getting laid like crazy. Total Posts: 26 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 5:37 pm on June 19, 2001 | IP Arise Newbie     Hello, I think that u should find a good female PUA wich will be one of your best friend (she must dress well , talk well , think well,etc... a real girl) . Ask that girl how to dress , how to make your hair . Be sure she won't destroy your image . She must make you look like a real PUA , not just like a funny guy ! Sometimes guys who look funny dressed are also stupids. You don't want this . Also take a look at others PUA , at how they dress , what they wear ... When u are in a LTTR ask the girl in some stores wich male clothes she likes . A HB will know probably better than you what clothes are well suited for u. About the muscular body : if u go to a gym for 3-4 month you will notice some changes with your body . And belive me , some extra muscles look realy good . About the hair : u have more choices here :  1) try different hair styles and ask your PUA girl wich one is the best .  1') use some programs wich requires to input some scanned pics with you and try different styles :ex virtual makeover.  2) go to a haircut stylist . About some clothes in which u feel the best . I found out that if i use some sort of clothes which realy annoy me , after a while i get used with that kind of clothes , and i start to wear them much more often and the feeling was great. One question : does anyone know something about men make up ? ----- Hide your face for ever... Dream and search for ever... Total Posts: 15 | Joined April 2001 | Posted on: 6:58 pm on June 19, 2001 | IP Buck Newbie     Valmont is cool!  And we can learn a lot about seduction from his character in the movie and book.  But I think he is a little too cruel.  I want to seduce women to have fun and I want the women to have fun too.  Valmont uses sex for the purpose of hurting people or building up his reputation at the expense of others.  In my opinion, seducing married women is uncool.   Tyler Durden is another great role model.  And like I was saying, he dresses like shit, (although nobody actually sees it.)  His success with the Helena Bonham Carter character was totally due to attitude.  You might even say in a sense that that movie was about an AFC developing a PUA alter ego.  Something I think we are all doing ina sense. ----- Buck Fortune favors the bold! Total Posts: 15 | Joined June 2001 | Posted on: 9:30 am on June 20, 2001 | IP Buck Newbie     As for getting a woman's opinion about my appearance, I am wary.  Most chicks I know would have me wearing earrings and a ponytail.  This is supplication.  In a sense, by dressing as women would have you dress, they are controlling you, just the same as if you bought them drinks, or flowers. Imagine the man you want to be and try to dress and act like him.  Observe PUAs you know, read GQ, check out movies, TV shows etc.   And I would never, ever consider wearing makeup.  This says, "I will do almost anything to get laid."  This is not a position to be in.   ----- Buck Fortune favors the bold! Total Posts: 15 | Joined June 2001 | Posted on: 9:45 am on June 20, 2001 | IP Magnum Newbie     I gotta confess to using a blemish stick. I don't think it gives off the desperate impression because it's not noticable to the naked eye, and I use it more for my own peace of mind than specifically to get laid. Zits and blemishes have a habit of popping up when they are least wanted (i.e on a PU night), and it's good to have a contingency plan. Having said that, that is as far as I'll go on the make-up front. Everything else is strictly for the chicks. As for getting chicks opinions on how to dress, it may be good to get a different point of view, but all one chick can give you is her own opinion. Other chicks will have different ideas on how men should dress. Some go for grungy, punky types, some go for bodybuilders in vests and some go for expensive suits. They're not all gonna know the magic recipe for what type of clothes other chicks like. My advice is to play around with your appearance. Wear different outfits, find out what you look best in and what gives you the best PU success rate. Then when you've found a style that works for you, stick to it. Again, if you need help, look at the PUA types in movies and TV and see what they wear. Total Posts: 26 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 5:47 am on June 21, 2001 | IP Tigerstyle Newbie     In my mind, guys spend WAY too much time worrying about how they look.  It's logical in a way since we are basically attracted to girls based on their appearance, we have this idea that women are attracted to attractive guys and won't give other guys a shot.  This is true to a certain extent, but over-all it doesn't matter.  It is much easier for a guy to compensate for lack of good looks with a winning attitude than for an ugly girl to do so.  What Buck said is true, you shouldn't dress like a slob, but past that it's all open for interpretation.  Girls like guys who show personality.  That's why they say they like guys with earrings and ponytails.  There are thousands of ways to show personality on your own terms, such as: -wifebeaters, most chicks say they look redneck but if you wear it right it says confidence. -tattoos, chicks love tattoos. -Any shirt with an interesting print like oriental, etc. -a cool ring, necklace, etc. -the right pair of glasses, all the punk chicks love black framed glasses for some reason. -facial hair, goatees, van-dykes, sideburns- chicks love these as long as you can wear it well without looking like a slob. I say experiment and find a few styles that make you feel confident.  Because that's whats really important.  Chicks are attracted to confidence, what you wear is just the vehicle you drive. ----- TigerStyle -Life is too short to dance with ugly women. Total Posts: 45 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 4:33 pm on June 21, 2001 | IP samuel25 Newbie     hey tell the truth instead of going around the hill. ----- HI PLEASE LET ME IN Total Posts: 1 | Joined June 2001 | Posted on: 12:02 am on June 23, 2001 | IP

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