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sopher 109 Newbie     Tyler Durden, yes, this is the perfect role-model ....     Not only is he balls out, the leader of the pack, and uncaring of other peoples opinion of him, in reality he had the appearance of Edward Norton (smaller, weakling looking guy), and even with that appearance he got laid.     That whole scene when he got Marla after listening in on her telephone call, that was totally alpha male ...     Not to mention his theories of life, how we should all evolve, and not buy into that pop-culture bullshit.     And finally, he was the guys guy, the dominant figure of hundreds of guys, tough looking mofo's too...       There is no question that Tyler Durden is an alpha male and a supreme role-model for those up-and-coming ... ----- "beware the well read man"          - Ray Bradbury Total Posts: 14 | Joined Jan. 2002 | Posted on: 6:48 pm on Jan. 2, 2002 | IP The Traveler Junior Member     Hello Grasshoppers, A very old piece of wisdom "clothes make the man" and the advice of many Indian tribes (see the Crazy Horse Guide) can combine to make anyone happy in their own skin. I recommend every man have at least one really nice suit (for special occassions and job interviews) and actually recommend you try to get a week's worth after you get out of school. The reason is that it has been proven that ANYONE can look good in a suit and a good haircut. It is almost impossible to deny this rule. Variations on a suit such as a dress jacket can do wonders for appearances when going out. As to hair, facial hair, etc., I recommend experimenting. I personally went totally clean shaven for years and one day I just grew out a goat-T for the hell of it. I couldn't believe all the compliments I got (I later learned that this gives your head a triangular appearance, making you look both thinner and drawing attention to your eyes, which are at the other 2 points-that was pretty deep). The reason I brought up the Crazy Horse guide is because it talks about how when a warrior was unhappy with the world, he would do some really odd things to break the pattern of failure and unhappiness. Examples included eating breakfast for dinner and vice versa, sleeping by day and waking by night, completely changing his hair/paint/jewelry. Sometimes, you need to become what you imagine is successful to be successful. I'll tell you a quick story. When I was in College, my girlfriend of 3 months dumped me to go back to her jerk ex-boyfriend (yes, this guy really treated her badly, but worse, he was persistently trying to get her back and he wore down her resistence). I had gone through a bad breakup my freshman year and had no desire to repeat that pain. Worst of all, it was the week before Valentines day. I asked every man, woman, and stranger about partiies going on that weekend and I went on a mission to plan the ultimate single man's weekend. I spent my afternoons listening to upbeat rock music and dressing just right and even invested in some recommended cologne (polo was popular then). I invited other guys on my floor to drink a few beers and help me get psyched for going out (we compared wild party stories, pickup lines, etc.) By the time I went out, it was like a football player before the superbowl. I felt invinsible, positive, and I KNEW I would be a happening dude. On Friday, I saw the Blushing Brides (a Rolling Stones cover band). During the show, the lead singer, who looked like Jagger, had the girls going big time. I had wound up next to this girl and we were both smiling and looking happy , so I simply grabbed her and kissed her (dangerous move-I don't recommend it-but the fireball shots probably helped), anyway, she was clearly suprised, but got into it and just laughed and smiled at me afterwards. I apologized and told her I was caught up in the moment and she laughed that it was cool as long as I didn't mention it to her boyfriend. Saturday I had the same afternoon routine and this time, we went to a frat party. I have to admit this place mad Animal House look tame, but it was one of the most amazing nights of my life. I had a girl all over me in the co-ed bathroom, but I walked away when it was clear just how drunk she was. I then went downstairs and I used a line that seemed to come out of nowhere: "I know you are the most beautiful girl here and I bet every guy here has hit on you. I just want to be the one that gets to walk you home." Believe it or not. It worked. I don't know why or how and I'm sure the alcohol on both sides helped too. I made a few efforts to see her again, but I was probably rushing things too much at the time. My main point is that the pre-party rituals with the music and the psyching up work. I have done this by myself and had it work. I get all the negative energy and thoughts out of my head before I go out there. Try it Guys! The Traveler Total Posts: 78 | Joined Mar. 2002 | Posted on: 4:35 pm on Mar. 13, 2002 | IP yellowsubmarine Newbie     I'm sure that everybody, not only girls, pay attention to other people look.   There is no such thing as a perfect look because nothing has been proved to be perfect so far ; it's just another theory. So you shouldn't worry about looking perfect, but you should pay attention to how comfortable is the guy/girl that looks at you in the mirror. If you don't LIKE yourself probably other people MAY like you, but it's not enough. You should like yourself naturally, and if you don't well just change your dress or try to look somehow better TO you. Don't take any role model, start with yourself. You can burn all the fashion magazine all they do is making you feel worse, because they're engineered to do so. Personally, I had some success with some girl when I was simply wearing shorts and a t-shirt , while I've seen people dressing elegantly fail miserably because a dress can help you, but can't change you. Cheers :D Total Posts: 8 | Joined May 2002 | Posted on: 4:54 pm on May 8, 2002 | IP Erich von Zipper Newbie     About asking women to critique your looks: Don't do it. Women aren't going to be frank because they don't want to hurt your fragile ego. You're better off asking a guy with a HB girlfriend. ----- I am one sexy bitch! Total Posts: 11 | Joined Aug. 2002 | Posted on: 9:04 pm on Aug. 26, 2002 | IP Noel Newbie     about it, the most important is no wear like if one was disguised, because you don't going to feel confortable. this going to less security in yourself. Total Posts: 1 | Joined Oct. 2002 | Posted on: 8:22 pm on Oct. 28, 2002 | IP MisterJoshuaXYZ Newbie     Magnum hit the answer right on mark. Total Posts: 1 | Joined Feb. 2003 | Posted on: 4:32 pm on Feb. 26, 2003 | IP Skye Newbie     Hey, basically looks are only a v.small amount of what chicks look for in a guy. Obviously dont act like a slob and make no attempt at your appearance, as long as you make the most of what you have, they can't complain. What it all comes down to is personality. I swear, you can be "A gift from God" in the looks department, but if you have no personality, then all you will attract is very shallow girls. Take it from me, confidence, (no, this doesn't mean act like a jerk) is all you need. Total Posts: 1 | Joined Aug. 2003 | Posted on: 10:55 am on Aug. 25, 2003 | IP mrbp03 Newbie     I'm sorry but I have to say that looks mean absolutely shit. I'm very good looking, and couldn't get shit until I was out of high school and grew some balls. My two biggest PUA friends are a) a 5'11, 140lb, rather dim white trash looking guy with a slight speech impediment and a gold tooth. He had slept with 49 women (including women in 20's and 30's) between ages 16 and 20, and gotten a BJ or HJ from 25 or 30 more. His typical outfit is jeans, tennis shoes and a white t-shirt. I met many and all were very very hot. b) Is a skinny half japanese half irish guy with acne scars and yellowing teeth. He was always doing all the chicks that the jocks were having wet dreams about. My point is, it's all about skill. Anyone without serious deformities, that has sufficient skill, can bag hot chicks. Total Posts: 3 | Joined Dec. 2003 | Posted on: 4:29 pm on Dec. 4, 2003 | IP BBoy Newbie     You need PLayer Cologne!!!!! www.urbanscents.com I found this site.  Check it out... Great Deals on Player Cologne Total Posts: 2 | Joined Feb. 2004 | Posted on: 2:59 am on Feb. 8, 2004 | IP rj Newbie     I'm a 5'1", who has a cough and runny nose (lung disease) who typically fairs better than my 6'1 AFC counterparts.   When I first started, I  thought that a key to the game was wearing nice clothes  (GQ, Abercrombie, GAP, Perry Ellis etc.)...   But when I tested the idea, I found out that I was just as effective on my PUs while wearing  a jogging suit bottom, torn up tee-shirt and a home made staple and velcro belt to hold my IPAQ as I am with my boot cut GAPs and tailored tops.   What works is an attitude that there is 1 of me and about 5,000,000 or so HB's and not basing your self worth on one girl's mood swing.  That's called confidence. That gets to the major difference between PUAs and AFCs.  Let's just say you started the "game"  and realized that your ratio is about 1/10  (i.e. 1 success for 10 failures).  All the AFC sees is the 10 rejections and give up.  The PUA thinks "I just have to talk to 11 HBs?  Is that it?" By acting, the PUA wins two fold.   One he gets the lay, and if he is any good, the news will spread.  (HB talk about good sex... even remember it for years... you'd be surprised.) Second, while working on the other 10, he's learning what works and what doesn't, which means he's better equipped for the next 11. After a while the PU's ratio jumps from 1/10 to 2/10 to 5/10 (MPUA). Okay back to the looks issue.  One thing I notice that works consistently, however is hygine.  Beyond taking bath/shower, keeping your face/hands clean and brushing teeth, we are talking about smelling good.  Smelling good  is not about calonge as strong as Stallone.  It's about wearing the proper scents in the proper amounts. As yourself "do I have:" 1. good scented deodorant with a scent that last? 2. Aftershave with a scent that last 3. Heavy mint gum accessible at all times and chew twice daily (or at least after meals) 4.  Body spray/cologne (don't stain your shirt, apply cologne to your body) 5.  Good smelling lotion 6.  Body wash with lasting scent 7.  Baby/Talcum powder (for excess moisture) Smelling good is like an invisible set of wingmen telling every girl in your presence what a great guy you are. Smelling good is universal.... How many HBs do you hear saying "I like... because he was stankin/smells bad?"  The seven scents make you familiar yet mysterious. Granted there's going a scent that she knows,  but then there are some that she won't know or never smelled in that combination before.  And when you do get physical with her, you can watch in delight as she explores your body to find the one she likes best. Last tip.  Don't pick your own scents, unless you want to attract a guy.  Shop during the daytime when the store is busy.  Narrow your scent down to about 3 to 4 selections.  Then ask a some HBs which one they like best.  Not only is it a chance for a good PU, but you end up with stuff that will help you with future PUs.   Take care, RJ Total Posts: 1 | Joined Sep. 2004 | Posted on: 9:43 am on Sep. 4, 2004 | IP

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