“Candor quasi-threesome report” (by Candor) | PUA Archive | alt.seduction.fast

Well, I've just done a somewhat kinda sorta almost threesome with
HB8Swede and HB9Literary, but there wasn't much revolutionary
technique involved.

As I've reported previously, HB8Swede, whom I laid for the first time
one week ago (read the field report, "all kino", is interested in
threesomes with either men or women.

Last night I called HB9Lit, who was once a fuck buddy of mine but
acquired a serious boyfriend while I was in Europe. I haven't been
working on her since I've been back in the U.S. because her boyfriend
appears to be doing her right, and the relationship is very solid.
I've also been busy with other chicks. But the BF is in Europe for
the summer, probably fucking other chicks, so she's a target. I've
decided to make a move now, because they've been apart long enough
that her attachment to him has to be weak, even though it's such a
healthy (read: lots of orgasms) relationship.

Okay, it's 4 a.m. and my writing isn't quite as crisp as usual. Bear
with me.

So anyway, I called HB9Lit last night (Thursday) and said that we
ought to have a chat. I told her that we're both extremely busy (the
truth), so if we don't MAKE time to meet TOMORROW (Friday), we'll
always be able to find excuses and will never get together. I tell
her there's something I want to talk about, and we should do so in
person. And don't worry, it's nothing serious. She said okay, and we
agreed to meet today at 7 p.m. and go to the drug store together (I
wanted to get some cough medicine, because I'm recovering from a cold
which hasn't slowed down my PU activity one bit since I'm so fucking
cool). Cough medicine and SOI--two birds with one stone.

So we're walking from my building to the nearby drug store, and get
into some very non-romantic fluff talk about my cold symptoms and
other crap. I sense that she's a little nervous, because here she is
spending time with her former fuck buddy while her beloved boyfriend
is in Europe (having sex with hookers, no doubt). So after about 5
minutes of this BS, I jump right into the reason for our meeting:

Candor: "Listen, HB9Lit, what I wanted to talk to you about. Now you
may have noticed that I haven't been trying to seduce you since I've
been back in the U.S."

HB9Lit: "Yes, I noticed that."

Candor: "Well, forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, because I think
we both understand what's going on. OF COURSE the reason I haven't
seduced you is not that I don't find you attractive. I find you every
bit as attractive as I did 6 months ago, and I'm sure that in another
6 months I'll still be interested in you. The reason I haven't
touched you is that I understand that your situation has changed."

HB9Lit: "Yes, and I appreciate that very much."

(Wait: she APPRECIATES my not having seduced her? This does not bode
well for my current effort.)

Candor: "I understand that you have a boyfriend who satisfies you
now."

HB9Lit: "Yes, I'm trying to be faithful to him."

Candor: "And I respect that. I'm not interested in making things
difficult for you. In fact I want to help you. Which brings me to
the subject of this conversation."

HB9Lit: "Yes?"

Candor: "I think it's silly for us to avoid each other just because
you have a boyfriend and you are attracted to me. I have a lot of
respect for your relationship, so I'm not going to have sex with you,
even if you want me to. I have a lot of willpower, so when I make
decisions about what I will and won't do, I stick with them. You can
rely on me."

HB9Lit: "Well, I have a lot of willpower too, except that sometimes
my feelings are even stronger than my will."

(What a crock of chick bullshit. She has a lot of willpower, except
when she really wants sex, in which case she'll forget her boyfriend
and fuck someone else. But a GOOD sign in my current pickup.)

Candor: "Well, if you do end up overwhelmed by your feelings, you can
rely on me to give you boundaries and keep you from doing things
you'll regret."

HB9Lit: "I would appreciate that."

Candor: "So anyway, I think that it would be great to spend some time
together. And I think you could use some excitement in your life,
with your boyfriend so far away. You know, one of my girlfriends is
interested in you."

(Note: I know this woman and have laid her previously. I know that
she had a lesbian experience years ago and is not opposed to the
idea.)

HB9Lit (pleasant surprise on her face): "Who is it?"

Candor: "You know, one of the things that I liked about you when we
were dating was that you didn't spread gossip. If I tell you about my
girlfriend, will you keep your mouth shut?"

HB9Lit: "Of course. That's something I like about you, too."

Candor: "It's HB8Swede."

They know each other, but by name and face only. I spend a minute
explaining who HB8Swede is, and she remembers.

Candor: "HB8Swede is one of the women I'm currently dating, and she
is interested in you. What I was thinking..."

(Here I stop walking and look in HB9Lit's eyes. She stops too and is
paying attention to what I say.)

Candor: "...was that if you were interested, you could WATCH us."

Pause. I can tell she likes the idea.

HB9Lit: "Yes, I would like that very much."

Candor: "And you don't have to worry about doing anything you'll feel
guilty about, because in addition to turning you on, I'll also make
sure that you don't do anything you don't want to do."

HB9Lit: "You'll be my protection."

Candor: "Exactly. I'll protect you. Do you think HB8Swede is cute?"

HB9Lit: "Yes, I do. Was this your idea or hers?"

Candor: "It was her idea to involve another woman. I suggested a
list of women I know, and you were the one she liked best."

HB9Lit: "Really? Me?"

Candor: "Yes. She thinks you're cute, and she also likes the way
that you have about you. Of course, she doesn't know you well, but
one can tell a lot about a person's character just by watching how
they interact with people. She likes you."

So we agreed to meet at midnight at HB9Lit's place. HB8Swede had
already been planning to come to my place at midnight for sex, and I
called her to change the plan.

So we meet at my place, and while we're driving to HB9Lit's, I give
HB8Swede the briefing. I tell her what I told HB9Lit, so she doesn't
say anything contradictory if asked. I tell her that HB9Lit is
passive, so she'll have to take the initiative. I also say that I'm
not going to have vaginal intercourse with HB9Lit, but everything else
is fair game. She's cool with it.

So we show up at HB9Lit's place, I introduce them, and we go to the
bedroom. I tell HB9Lit to sit on her bed. HB8Swede sits down at the
other end of the bed, and they both look at me, waiting for me to do
something.

Candor: "So I guess it's the man's job to get things started, huh?"

HB8Swede and HB9Lit: "Yes."

So I start making out with HB8Swede, and then lean into HB9Lit's ear
and whisper: "HB9Lit, no matter what happens tonight, I'm not going to
enter you. Not even if you beg me to. So you know that no matter
what happens, you will stay faithful to your boyfriend. So you are
absolutely free to do anything you want. Okay?"

HB9Lit: "Okay."

So then I do some foreplay with HB8Swede, undress her and fuck her.
This whole process takes about 30 minutes. HB9Lit sits at the end of
the bed the whole time not doing anything but clearly enjoying the
show. As I'm fucking HB8Swede, I'm gradually moving closer to HB9Lit
every time we change positions. At one point, I'm lying on my back as
HB8Swede sucks me. I put my arm on HB9Lit's leg and start stroking.
She starts stroking my arm in response.

Finally, I'm on top of HB8Swede and she asks me to come on her face.
I do so and HB9Lit watches from about 6 inches away.

After the sex, I ask everyone if they enjoyed it. They did. Do they
want to repeat it sometime soon? They do. Does HB9Lit find HB8Swede
attractive? She does. Does HB8Swede find HB9Lit attractive? She
does. That's good, because they are both beautiful young women.
Maybe they want to touch each other too?

HB9Lit: "Let's save that for next time."

Candor: "Okay, we'll get together Sunday or Monday."

HB9Lit: "Sounds good."

So then HB8Swede and I get dressed and head back to my place. Along
the way, I ask HB8Swede why she didn't make the move on HB9Lit. She
says that she couldn't read HB9Lit well enough and couldn't tell if
she wanted it. I told her that I know HB9Lit well enough, and could
tell that she wanted it (the truth). So next time she should not
hesitate and go for it.

So all in all a delightful evening, and the next date is going to be
at least as good, if not better. Hopefully I'll get to see some
lezzing.

Okay, what would explain my success in this instance? I think that
the key here is that I am now operating within a frame of "threesomes
are normal." I radiate a casual attitude about the whole thing, and
in my presence nobody feels like it's anything out of the ordinary.
I'm also dealing with a current MLTR who definitely wants a
threesome--she had broached the subject first on Tuesday. And the
target HB in this instance is a former fuck buddy, so all of the
initial approach, eliciting values, etc., is out of the way. And also
importantly, both HBs know my reputation for keeping my mouth shut.
This is key. HB9Lit doesn't want her boyfriend or anyone who knows
her boyfriend to find out. And HB8Swede doesn't want to develop a
reputation as Threesome Chick among her friends. So confidentiality
is good.

Naturally, my confident attitude is helpful, as was my pacing of
HB9Lit's reality in our initial conversation ("I respect your
relationship...that's why I haven't seduced you", my acting without
hesitation and generally being the leader. And transferring
responsibility for protecting HB9Lit's virtue to me was a smart move.
Defining infidelity as narrowly as possible--vaginal intercourse--also
gives me lots of wiggle room.

Next time HB8Swede is going to pounce on HB9Lit, and I'll enjoy
watching. I'll also fool around with HB9Lit, but I meant what I said
about not entering her. But if she's naked and helping HB8Swede give
me a blowjob, I'll be happy. Who needs two vaginas anyway? Two
mouths and one vagina are plenty.

Comments? I'd better hit the sack now. HB8Swede is snoring.

Candor