posts by the masters on this topic, so maybe it will be good to have the newbie
perspective too. In retrospect, this seemed incredibly easy, and I think there
is no reason why other RAFC's/GPUA's can't be having threesomes. Maybe this
was foolsmate for me, if there is such a thing as threesome foolsmate, but
I'm not really into rating girls, but for the sake of understanding... they
were both probably 7s or 8s
Also, I'll mention that I live in Daejeon, South Korea... which is a very
conservative town... Very conservative.... Lesbianism is 99.9% in the closet.
Many girls remain virgins well into their 20's, they even still practice
arranged marriages quite regularly... etc... So, for anyone thinking "if only
I lived in San Francisco, LA, or Tokyo, then I could do it"... you are wrong.
OK, my bi-curious girlfriend comes to stay the weekend with me. note: neither
of us have had this experience before, but we had been talking about it for a
while. One of our projects for the weekend was to bring a girl home to play
with. She was fully into it. Inspired by what I read from Maniac, jlaix, and
also Rich H. (thanks bros) I even told my gf "I read a few things on the
internet about how to pick up chicks for a 3some". "Oh... Really?" she said.
Here's what happened...
We went out without a game plan at all... My first time and hers. We didn't
really have an idea of what we were doing. Basically, I said that we would
mostly act like we were just friends, because I didn't want to scare off any
girls by making them think they didn't have a chance. (unfortunately, as I
found out, I should have been more specific what I meant by 'act like
friends'... first mistake). Anyway, my suggestion to newbies is to have a
clear plan, to have some ground rules laid out, etc... friday night was a
I'll spare the details of all the sets etc.... basically what happened was my
girlfriend got a little drunk and was mostly walking up to girls and running
caveman game on them. She'd just say "hello" and then start touching them, and
if they didn't freak out, she would go for the kiss after about 2 minutes. It
was impressive. Wow, I think about all the guys with approach anxiety, they
could learn a lesson from this chicks balls. But, it wasn't the most effective
(and if a guy ran this kind of game, he'd surely get slapped)... the chicks
were thinking that my girlfriend was drunk and strangely desperate for getting
chicks. She was coming off as desperate with her body language», etc. Of
course, I could tell my gf was getting excited when she was kissing on chicks,
since she had only kissed a girl once before. Later when we debriefed, she
told me "I was just trying so hard to get a girl for us... I guess I was trying
too hard." yes.
As the night progressed, she got more drunk. And eventually she wasn't
listening to my suggestions about how to get the girls, what to do, where we
were going, etc... And we needed to change to another bar because the scene
was dying. But, gf started to ignore me, so I just left her there with no
money, no phone, and no way to get home. (Note: she didn't bring any money,
and I don't drink so I didn't buy her drinks, somehow she got wasted just the
same.) I was pissed off because she was not following the plan (but then I
realized that I didn't really give her much of a plan.)... of course, I've
never even winged with a guy for the purpose of PU. So, I didn't have any
wingman rules or anything. My suggestion is to have some rules and a plan.
When I debriefed later, she said that she thought my suggestion to act like
friends was very literal... that's why she was ignoring me, etc... because she
was treating me like any other friend. So, my suggestion backfired a little.
Another set she opened, and got kino and a kiss.... then she told the girl our
plan. like, "my boyfriend and I want to take someone home for a threesome"....
uh.... sort of an AFC tactic. So, I told her next time, tell the girl to
come home to watch a movie, or have a drink, or look at my art, or anything,
but not 'to have a threesome'. She had a lot of AFC moves (of course, I
still have many old habits myself), but I must hand it to her, she was
incredibly persistent, incredibly immune to what others were thinking of her,
and powerfully direct and sexy...
in the end, at this bar, I got maybe one girl who was ready for extraction by
me, and a couple others who were attracted. But, my gf blew it with all of
them by miscalibrating the girls... we needed to work on how to bring the other
She got attraction and curiousity from a number of girls, but they were all
thinking that something was a little strange.... hmmm... maybe somehow we could
have hooked up with them... I'm not sure.
Ok, so my point is, the importance of having a plan and some rules... I'm still
not sure exactly what. But, I would start with this.... she must do what I say
when I have suggestions, and it must always be clear that we are working as a
And maybe this needs some work, but this was my vision: my gf would always be
showing just a little more closeness to me then the target... just a little,
like pacing and leading. First the gf would look like a close friend... then,
once some attraction and rapport was built, the gf could start to give hints
that maybe she was a little more than a friend, and that she was attracted to
me. Then, when the target was attracted and getting hot, the plan would be
subtly suggested more and more. Like, the idea being that the target is
following the gf who is following my lead. Leading and double leading. Well,
that was my idea anyway. Maybe someone has some thoughts on that.
So, eventually a friend finds my girlfriend, and calls me and puts her in a cab
with some money, to send her home... we spend a long time debriefing, until she
starts to understand where she needed to do things differently.
But, as I was out wandering, after leaving her at the bar, I passed a
meat-on-a-stick stand. Three girls eating meat on a stick. They give me EC,
and they giggle together as I approach. Big IOIs!... So I open... "Hey, do you
girls speak English?" This one was too easy, and sort of like foolsmate. They
were drunk, so the one with the best English fully starts to come on to me.
She number closes me. I eject...
this leads too...
I get a call from HB number close. This girl clearly wants me. I tell her "we
should go out for a drink, call me later tonight". I briefly mention that I
might be meeting a friend that night, but I don't say any more about it.
Then she calls.... I tell her to come meet me at my place and then we will go
out for a drink. She agrees. Up to this point this is all too easy. And if
we weren't talking 3some this would be a done deal. But, when she arrives she
will get a little surprise.
So, after a long good debrief, gf is ready for another attempt, here allready
with isolation. Things look good. So, we open a bottle of wine and I grab my
Korean flute (tae-guem... a big thing like Bill is playing when sitting by the
fire in Kill Bill 2)... And the 2 of us go sit in front of my apartments
drinking wine, playing flute. This looks good when HB arrives by taxi.
She looks surprised, but without giving her time to ask, "who is this? how do
you know each other" etc... a sit her down, tell her to drink some wine, and
start talking about the flute, etc... So comfortable, like nothing was odd
about the situation at all. She looks a little uncomfortable for about 5
minutes, until she starts leaning in to hear what my gf is saying, and she
starts to look interested. So, we do some playful palm reading 3-way to start
kino. And we finish the wine. Time to change venue. So, we go to my place
quick to get some money. Then we go walk to the corner store. I hold the
targets hand, who seems a little confused, but not at all resistant. We buy
more wine. I keep the conversation lively and fun. We go back to my place.
We play some music and start dancing. She really likes to dance - great. I
was thinking of initiating heavy kino by a massage game - (Although, I hadn't
even read Style's post at the time.) But, as it turned out, dance kino was the
route we took. Dancing and drinking... dancing and drinking... my gf is being
good and not over doing the kino, but also being seductive. They start doing
"one shot" , a common korean thing to do... even the girls love to show their
macho-ness by pounding a glass of wine in one shot. Ugh... I refused to play.
I shouldn't have even let them play, in retrospect. But, my gf, really wants
to get the target drunk to help the seduction... despite my telling her that
wasn't necessary. So dance kino gets heavier and heavier, and the target
starts to unbutton my shirt.
Well, it progressed to the bed, etc..... for details see my post "FR/FU:what
the f#ck happened?"
So, the kino gets sexual, clothes are coming off... then, the cheap wine kicks
in and kicks out in puddles of vomit. Eck! Both girls throw up.
One girl sleeps on my matress which was still wet from the vomit leaking
through the sheets. The other girl sleeps by the bathroom door covered in
vomit, screaming and crying all night. I sleep on the floor with the only
clean blanket I have left.
We wake up. gf showers off the puke. I expect HB to wake up and think "what
the fuck did I do?" and run out of the house. Instead, she wakes up and thinks
"where the fuck are my clothes?" she scurrys over to her clothes and puts on
pants and a bra. But, then she gets back into bed, where my gf and I join her.
Kino begins again, and then kissing, and then it's on. clothes come back off...
ha ha... mmmm..... yeah.... Wow... ASF is so cool... my life has changed so
much... I'm so happy... I love this shit... aaaaa!!!! yeah.....
All three of us with our first time in a threesome, 2 girls with their first
time with another girl. A night and day of magic!
Anyway... my main points were...
1) if you are AFC, GPUA, -whatever... if you live in a conservative place...
don't know any bisexual girls, -whatever... It doesn't matter.
2) there need to be some rules about what the girl does. I'm probably not the
one to write about this... But, I know that the archives have so much
information about "rules with your wingman"...
***someone please write a post "rules with your bisexual sarging partner"...
Please... my request, guys....
Unfortunately I'm leaving Korea in 2 weeks, so I'll have to say good bye to all
these lovely ladies... But, aaa... what fun I've had!
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