“Re: Don‘t Name The Matrix” (by finalD) | PUA Archive | alt.seduction.fast.advanced

BadPirate wrote at Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:56:00 GMT in
news:204510.32529@discussion.fastseduction.com:

>
> 2) If I am some master seducer, then she's waiting for some
> money shit. From the I am the prize frame, my shit is
> irrelevant. She must chase.

This is an incredible revelation, one I haven't really thought
about until just now, THANKS!

So, the basic idea here is, naming the frame sets up
expectations (among them, that the male has some seriously
amazing seduction skills and that the male, not the female, does
the chasing).

I have always rejected the "exchange frame," even when it
involved something as seemingly innocuous as "good seduction
skills exchanged for sexual access to the female," becuase of
the obvious detriments: if you're exchanging FOR sexual access,
then you're admitting that her pussy is VALUABLE to you, and
probably MORE valuable than your dick; no matter WHAT you're
exchanging (AFCs trade lobster dinner, flowers, "buy you a
drink," while RAFCs here trade "rollercoaster pattern" and
"elvis script". Also, if you're exchanging for sex, it implies
she WOULD NOT WANT SEX unless she got what she was selling it
for. She's not horny, it implies; she's just a good shopkeeper,
turning out goods for sale at a fair price (three elvis scripts
and one escalating kino and she reluctantly spreads her legs for
one night; a super-speed-seduction pattern and she reluctantly
spreads them for TWO nights AND gives a blowjob, none of which
she would otherwise choose to do). See the problem?

So, I've always been negative about the exchange-frame-of-mind.
But you've done a great job of relating THOSE problems over to
the idea of naming the matrix. By naming it, you're talking
about EXCHANGING things. The "name" of the matrix is "I do this,
you do that" or "tit for tat" or whatever. And that's a
dangerous thing to do, it sets up EXCHANGE-BASED expectations
that will probably scotch the sarge.

The only thing to do is remember, chicks love having their
privates tickled; and remember, sarging is about MAKING HER WANT
YOU TO TICKLE HER PRIVATES. Not GIVING her something IN EXCHANGE
for the right to tickle, but rather causing surreptitiously the
fact that she will LEAVE the exchange-assumptions behind and
WANT to be involved with you. So, by naming the matrix, you've
also abandoned the matrix and returned to the humdrum everyday,
the AFC. She can only "want you" (without exchange implications)
if she thinks it's HERSELF that wants you; consequently, it
can't possibly be part of any matrix at all, it's just "her
natural feelings." See?




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