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mASF post by "Sin"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2005

Oh man don’t I ever feel like crap

Never drink coffee when you can’t sleep and try to sleep…just doesn’t work


Well thought I’d post some random thoughts maybe let you guys know my weekend
Thursday was another wild bill night very fun dancing with girls and hanging
out with my buddies I have NO reservations asking a girl to dance. I seem to
have a great way to open girls I usually dance up to a girl and take her by the
hand I e lead…this seems to be a lot better way of getting a chick on the floor
then “Hi wanna dance with me?” *yawn* Only thing I can think of that I
probably could have done was open some sets on the chicks who were not dancing
on the sidelines but I was in my fun state..and wasn’t looking to ruin my night
with a agenda (not to sure if you can relate but if you can give me a silent
nod).

Friday and Saturday were pretty non pu other then beers, hot wings, work and
friends I didn’t do much eh lazy I guess?

Oh how could I forget Me and Chad hooked up and went out for sushi Friday
afternoon Thanks a bunch mate! I swear those California rolls are talking to me
everyday I think I’m going to recommend a Japanese restaurant when I go out
with my buddies coming home from Iraq this July 4th weekend, and as you know
I’m reading No More Mr. Nice Guy…looking forward to applying it and seeing
where it takes me….

Now for what’s really on my mind….What is the point of ASF?

These days as I cruise the advanced and general forums on ASF I see a lot of
conflict between guys that say ASF fucks you up and guys that say ASF is the
way to go. This is sorta posing a conflicting role for me because one side of
me is very (Be yourself in a attractive way) but of course when it comes to
being in the field I encounter the “I don’t know what to do now…hmmmmmm” and I
think that is where masf would be most helpful…however when it becomes the
crutch you use as your only interactions with women I see that as a issue.

Is there a proven formula to be successful with women? Is there a simple
equation here a 1+1=2 thing going on? Wait I thought women like ice cream came
in many different flavors…flavors that I like?

Exotic women…women from the islands, women from foreign nations..women with a
accent (see Tmoblie commercials starring Catherine Zeta Jones for details)
…black and Latinos I prefer ….(but a white girl who thinks she’s black will do
:P)

Intelligence…..Drive…Passion….Power…

Can you make me laugh? Are you playful? Do you have a funny reality like me?

A girl who can dance…(pretty big here…Some of these chicks I see on the dance
floor man..I think I could find better moves watching Christopher reeves
(R.I.P.)

So why can’t I go to Baskin Robbins and pick up the flavor?

Because being the truly real me and I mean REAL me is not attractive to the
majority of women…why because I am very unique and rare…I don’t fit that carbon
copy image of what a playboy should be I am ME…..and the women out there who
are like me are just that rare….so if I want to go in with the just being me
I’m going to have to deal with shitloads of rejection to find that diamond in
ruff But eventually you get tired of mining…….

So you figure hmmm something about what I am doing is not getting the women I
want…I want to emphasize something that I AM DOING and not ME AS A PERSON is
wrong..because I think to many men find their value as who they are as a person
by somebody elses approval a big symptom of the “nice guy syndrome” (No More
Mr. Nice Guy) I don’t get chicks gosh I’m such a afc..

Side note
(Now if a afc is someone who doesn’t know much about masf…or has low self
esteem…or doesn’t do anything to better themselves then label that person a afc

But if I’m a afc because I don’t have sex every weekend do me a favor and kiss
my black ass :P)



Enter Masf

Player guide…Masf FAQ…Without Embarrassment^»…Double Your Dating Ebook/Advanced
Series, Ross Jeffries, Cliff notes…Masf Forum …Stacks of printed material,
patterns, Tyler’s 25 points…….holy shit…

Now to a desperate man who is craving that hot looking chick in those white
pants at a club….and wants it bad enough he probably will read a whole
encyclopedia if that’s what it took to get him with THAT chick… but that is
where the fault is ..there is no formula to get with EVERY woman you want…and
when something doesn’t work out with that ONE chick we go searching for another
answer..and another answer. and another answer……and low and behold the false
success of a Lay report makes you think (OMG IT”S WORKING) and you are driven
even more into the seduction community and soon your soul is gone….

Isn’t it funny that there are posts that literally teach people on the ASF
community to be normal?

I got 4 number closes and I didn’t use any masf technique doing it…my brother
who has never met a dating book in his life gets girls all the time….and his
friends do also…Jose a 24 year old black play boy (from what I’ve heard) has
had sex with over 30 different women…..I wonder what he knows what asf is?

I use to have stacks and stacks and stacks of material…I read and read and
read…and when I went out and tried using it I got frustration…depression from
lack of success. And got the whole “what is wrong with me frame” ….after those
four number closes you know what I did ..threw most of the material away…
(except the player guide…faq..and the random postings about natural game^» simply
because I plan on working through it just out of curiosity)

So was I using a masf technique to get those number closes or was it just me
being natural….?

Did I get those numbers from a girl trying to get me to buzz off? were all my
lays just fools mates…sheesh and I thought the girl was attracted to me oh
well….

Sometimes I wonder if men on asf would put the same effort they put into asf
into something like ending world hunger….or universal health care we would
have a lot less hungry people on the streets and people going bankrupt on
medical bills but at the risk of getting on a political rant…I’ll stay on
topic.

Even though my tone is for the most part is criticism of this MASF I think MASF
is a great place….I think men going out and getting laid is great, and I think
MEETING NEW PEOPLE IN GENERAL is a wonderful thing and it’s not like I’m
getting ass all the time so I’ll be happy to be using masf techniques to help
mold MY style..(emphasis on the M and the Y)…but I really think there should be
a warning before you open up a masf website that says..this is what masf is
ment to do…and nothing more…and clarify what masf can do for the men in this
earth (and women as well). I think the most important technique of masf is the
inner game^» sections it’s there where you learn the most powerful technique in
the seduction community...confidence….

Yes believe it or not the act of me going up to a girl and believing I was the
shit got me numbers..not turning my body 90 degrees towards the door..while my
eyes were directly parallel to her shoulder as I had a sensuous tone…faking
disintrest….pushing and pulling… heh…come on man I barely got a A in
precalculus how am I going to remember the all that stuff when I could barely
remember my trig..(sine is the inverse of cosine…or is it tangent inverse of
cotangent…whatever)

One of the best tips I received on masf was imperfects post

1. no more then an hour worth of tv/pc a day (which I’m breaking now btw)
2. Go out and be social


Seems like ever since I did that my confidence with women went up…I listen to
music a lot more (specficly 2pac for some reason who btw I think has an
excellent frame when dealing with women) read, and also work out…

Heck I think hip hop itself is helping me out with women….seems a couple
things rap does when it comes to women

1. doesn’t put much value on them (obviously its very dergatorey towards women)
2. Lets you know the most important things in life are your friends and your
family

Heck notorious b.i.g. said it best …”heartthrob? Never black and ugly as ever
however I say coochie down to the socks” this dude even though he says he’s
ugly STILL that won’t stop him from going after pussy….hell yeah…it’s called
drive…I think drive will get you more pussy then any pattern ever will

Man so much random thoughts…oh well it was on my chest and I had to get it
out…I guess I’ll just leave this post with a question and hopefully some
feedback…please forgive me if this post may offend some of you …but hey I’m
just being me….

1. How important is masf when it comes to relating to women?
2. Is masf the only tool you use when relating to women
3. If it would take you learning all of the player guide just to lay a HB 10
who wouldn’t want you anyway would you do it?


Swordmanx lead me to this post where this kid sorta cut straight to my soul
when it came to my journey on masf


The difference between me and all you Alpha/PUAs is that I hook up with women
because they are attracted to ME, whereas you have to fool them.


Sorry about the lack of congruency,grammar, spelling and whatever (man I need
to work through that idiots guide to grammar I swear) hope this may deter some
people from finding their value as men by how many girls they have on the
side….heck if I had the choice of being Malcolm X or Don Juan Domarco…I
wouldn’t hesitate to Put a X by my name


"You haven't got a revolution that doesn't have bloodshed...and you are afraid
to bleed"-Malcolm X