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Re: PUA is the new AFC: Why ASF is wrong
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posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, April 4, 2005's kinda amusing how there's some implied viewpoint that naturals don't
have the ability or inclination to approach and attract the women they want

a natural pua and a 'manufactured' pua are essentially the same thing - any
guy who isn't comfortable approaching women no matter how popular they were
in college is still an average guy when it comes to pu and is not a natural

Look back to the initial post in this thread, because it refers to your
comment about coming from different worlds, the main issue cropping up more
and more with seduction related stuff is in the way it taught, by whom and
the effect of their underpinning beliefs.


<Lukeskywalker> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think you guys are missing the big picture here.
> I was what you would call a natural in college. I went to a big 10 school
> and
> was in the best frat there. Almost every of the 80 guys that lived in
> the
> house was an alpha male (thats all we recruited). Well guess what, I got
> laid
> off of social circle/sorority shit all the time. However, A MM/RSD MADE
> WILL ALWAYS BEAT A PURE NATURAL-unless the natural has unreal social proof
> or
> is a perfect 10.
> Once out of college, I noticed that I had LOTS of trouble in clubs
> approaching
> women in groups (most all naturals I know avoid this). Mystery's group
> set
> theory is amazing, and one of the most valuable contributions to this art
> ever.
> You guys are arguing over two separate things!!!!!!!!! IF ALL YOU GUYS
> TO GET LAID THAT IS EASY--approach 200 women and you will get laid. THE
> YOU WANT!!!!!!! For instance, the other night at a bar i turn around and
> see a
> HB8.7 staring at me, so I walk over there giving EC and say "DO you want
> to
> kiss me?" She says i don't know and i kiss her and leave with her. Does
> that
> make me a PUA? NO!!! It was fools mate and I understand this, but good
> luck
> doing this when SHB10 is in a group with 4 other people.
> I also think that this agruement stems from the fact people are coming
> from
> different worlds. I college all you have to do is be social and good
> looking
> and you are in, but good luck trying this in NYC in an exclusive club. I
> just
> don't think some of these posters are playing in the same league as
> Mystery,
> and thus don't really understand where he is coming from. And some of you
> guys
> are scared, or too young, to go to clubs and therefore only do "coffee
> shop"
> approaches and so use other techniques--that doesn't mean asf/MM stuff
> doesnt
> work!
> About ASF:
> 1. A nerd with knowledge with have more confidence and will actually get
> out
> in the field eventually giving him competence. Thus, more confidence.
> 2. we are just sharing ideas on pick up here, and sharing ideas is good
> 3. Learn from the best. Read Toecutter's, mystery's, TD's archives.
> 4. Go to a workshop and learn from the best. However, only go when you
> have
> SOME mastery of the game--not to get pushed into approaching! This works
> in
> every aspect of you life. Sports, business, pu, etc. BTW, I will take
> the MM
> workshop soon and it is not because I am a nerd, it is because if you want
> to
> be the best it saves time to learn from the best.
> 5. Stop pissing on people that sell products. There is a review section
> on
> ASF so "buyer beware".
> use the force,
> Lukeskywalker

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