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mASF post by "xmlenigma"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, June 6, 2005

Guys need advise here. Appreciat it.

I have been attempting to get my MOVE going and have a really TENSE neck /
shoulder. Was planning to go with the wings tonight but an hour long drive to
downtown made me rethink it. Decided to stay.

My SmartAlphaTalker is dressed up and wants to go out. So I say okay.. theres
this place close by thats not too bad.

Smart guy, natural talker.. we said lets go..

We go stand, walk around for quite a bit.. I am in EXCUSER mode. Approach
Anxiety. I dont know.

After an 30-40 mins or so roaming around the place.. we split for a bit.. hes
watching TV boxing match and I am sitting at the bar.. He fluffs opens a chick
to his left
[ We had earlier determined that there were these 2 females that no one was
talking to.. due to 5- etc and looked like they wanted to ]

He keeps talking.. on & off.. I notice that I go and stand near but away from
him.. in case he gets a CB or something. Stay a while.. then go away.. after a
while notice that the 2 Hottest HBs (HB9.5 & HB8.5) are sitting near to his 2
set and both the 2 sets are kind of mixing.

I go in with my friend.. he intros me to HB4 & UG and I fluff with them.. I
say.. they have to be honest.. because I have a question that I have been
pondering over.. etc. WLM.. The HB4 leads it and actually does almsot the
entire opener as we do... (damn!).. Stolen.. I let HB4 talk to my friend..

and put forth the "Girlfriend of my friend drunk & making out with other girls"
scenario.. Cheating.. or not.. to HB9 & HB8.5, Get different answers.. (seemed
HB9.5 was glad I talked to her.. I was pimped up leather band.. and red pimp
shirt) .. Then try to SwingCat them.. HB9.5 responds well.. HB8.5 attitude..
some more stuff.. pinch HB8.5's nose with OMG ur nose so wiggles when you
laugh..

Fun convo.. somewhere here UG gets up from her seat.. and leaves.. so I sit
with HB9.5 & HB8.5 so that I dont have to shout / vocal project as much. After
a bit HB9.5 is like.. ur asking about us .. all questions.. would like to know
about you.. (IOI..SOI).. I say.. well go ahead.. ask me what you want to know .

Somewhere here HB8.5 starts on this trip about me taking UGs seat and not
offering her the seat.. I stand my ground like a stone. She starts getting
nasty and then HB9.5 gets pulled in a little (shes still being polite).. Funny
thing is UG never asked me for her seat..

I was like.. fuck that.. I am not giving .. she even threatens.. my brother is
the manager or something or works here.. blah blah.. I smile "Oh I am really
scared" and turn away from her..

I talk to UG and say.. all you had to do was tell me you wanted to sit down
nicely. HB8.5 trips on about she shouldnt have to ask. I face away from her and
say.. "I wasnt talking to you.. you are rude".. She is saying "LEAVE" etc.

She keeps giving me crap. I hold the seat. They get HB4 to get my friend to
talk to me to move away. I do not move. My friend says "yaar kyon manager etc
aadmiyon se panga karna hai.." leaves and stands 15 feet away. I stay for quite
a bit. Back turned. Tell UG & HB4.. you can have your seat.. all you had to do
was ask for it.

Basically, at some levels I think I had to hold my ground. But, know that I was
also giving back to HB8.5 what she gave me but with a "smile" which caused her
to erupt more. She started abusing.. gaalis etc..

---------- I think someone posted a similar situation ----------

What do you do? Hold ground.. or leave chair way before.. it escalates to this
point..... ? Good way to balance between both.

I eventually got up.. but stood there. To show I was not afraid of HER or her
brother. Asked my friend to come over. He did not. So I went to him.. he was
angry with me.. I told him that I did not like HB8.5 giving attitude & threats.
All she had to do was say it nicely.

I say.. u carry on talking to the girl.. He went back after 10 mins to talk to
HB4... and.

------I was kinda shaken up by the entire thing.. cool and calm on the
outsude.. but thinking was there a better way inside-----

Stayed at place entire till 2 am closing. Friend was talking to HB4 entire time
& with the other girls.

Highlights of some convo that he remembers.. (after I left)
*
- HB9.5 - im sexually frustrated.. Wing: Solutions walking around HB9.5: Dont
know if I will click with anyone etc.. points out to some guy she sees
- HB4 - UGs breasts are nice, wish I had that kind, Wing: H8.5 also doesnt
HB4: HB9.5 has good ones.. Wing: You want to get fake ones etc..
- Shes from Austin.. doesnt like Houston.. not as liberal.. people are rude..

My friend seems to be quite the talker. He was with them entire evening.. while
I was roaming around or sitting at a bar stool doing nothing. HB4 gave him her
#.


I AM A SAD CASE. One day I am up and the next I am down.

I am wondering how I could have not gotten into the LOGICAL FRAMES of POWER
GAMES for the seat. ?

What should I have done and HOW ?

What could I have done to re-open ? If at all (... BB says if they blow you
off.. even better.. persist and open again)


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