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mASF post by "formhandle"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2003

Thank Anton Klink ( for starting the ball rolling on all these
rip-off "lay guides" which have NEVER, NOT ONCE gotten permission from the
authors of all the collected content whether it was OK to republish (which, for
fair use is mostly kosher) let alone CHARGE for that content and not cite
sources and not even bothered to re-write the content (they CAN'T because they
don't understand it). Here's one that I tried to make a complaint about a
while back but it's still up:

For those guys who need a backgrounder:

Most of these "rip-off" sites are duplicating the original "Lay Guide" whipped
together by a guy named Anton Klink ("Tony") from Estonia. He collected a
whole bunch of uASF posts and put up a "free" site for about 2 months before
then switching to charging access to it. Access to materials he never got
permission to sell. So you can thank him for all these copycat rip-off sites
in the past 2-3 years. They're ripping off ripped off material. It's a
degeneration of a degeneration.

Gradually, these rip-off sites will be torn down. They can't last long -
things that are unethical are easy to force down. Unless you're a guy living
in Estonia... ARG... last I heard, the guy is basically "licensing" the lay
content. He has NO RIGHT to do that.

In any case, I say we empower the community to tear down this shit so that guys
can find the content from the RIGHT place - either FS101 or Maniac's site.
Here's the misc contact info for the offenders of the above URL:

Elite Fitness
217 West 18th Street
P.O. Box 1264
New York, NY 10113-1264
George Spellwin gsp***n@el***.com[ ? ]
inf***o@el***.com[ ? ]

They appear to be hosted by Here is's hosting policies:

Globix abuse dept can be contacted at:

abu***e@gl***.net[ ? ]

I'd already contacted them a few months ago, but they might need complaints
from a ton of people to take action.

I mean, for Christ's sake, you look at that page and the guy has the graphic of
a "virtual" book with "Encyclopedia of Seduction Patterns" (Ross' material)
with the name "George Spellman" at the bottom as if to denote it's HIS material
(which it clearly is not - but ignorant guys visiting that page won't know).
Also, another virtual book cover titled "Neghits Explained - the secrets of
seducing a 10" again with his name on the cover as if he wrote the materials.

The phone number on that page is listed as:

(888) 613-8959

jay [[email protected]]

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