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mASF post by "juancito"
posted on: USENet: newsgroup, June 6, 2000

On 25 Jun 2000 12:12:45 GMT, "BlueOne" <blu***0@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote:

>juancito <jua***o@no***.com[ ? ]> wrote in article
><kmo***t@4a***.com[ ? ]>...
>> On 25 Jun 2000 00:43:37 GMT, "BlueOne" <blu***0@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote:

>> >Now, I am new to all this and I didn't yet start to
>> >using and practicing NLP in real
>> >life but through my common sense I beleive in its effectivnes.
>> How do you know its effective if you haven't seen in in action or used
>> it yourself. An important part of NLP is questioning assumptions.
>As I understand so far , an important part of NLP are pressupositions.
>My pressuposition is :
>NLP is very effective tool in making us unressistable in communication.
>My pressuposition is:
>NLP is very effective tool in creating states we desire in ourselves and
>My pressuposition is:
>NLP is very effective tool in installing empowering beleifs in ourself
>which will allow us
>to go out and take a action.
>So final pressuposition is : If I can install in me very empowering
>beleifs and if am able to
>be unressistable in communication and in creating states I desire in myself
>and others I
>would be a master of seduction.
>I don't see why to question that. I don't want to question that:
>I am looking for every possible reason which will back up this
>pressuposition. I am questioning
>assumptions but limiting one not empowering one. I doubt that when Ross
>Jeffries start creating
>his model of SS that he start from pressuposition " I doubt that this will
>work. I really don't beleive
>that this will work because I didn't have seen anybody who is using this in
>practice and I didn't have
>use this in practice.So it doesn't work." No, he had some pressupositon
>probbably similar to mine otherwise that would not be speedseduction.
>Without proper beleifs ( " This will work " ) he wouldn't
>be ready to pay a price in creating his model of seduction. For me it is
>very easy to accept my final
>pressuposition becase they are so many people who backuped that beleif (
>RJ, Maniax , David Shade ,
>and a lots of others.) Now I haven't seem them in real life but I don't
>have reason to doubt in that and
>also very important : I don't want to doubt something which is empowering
>to me.But , hey, that is only
>my perspective , I would like to hear what is your perspective? Do you
>dissegre with me? Which is your
>model of perceiving seduction?

No I don't disagree with you, using that set of presuppositions you
will be able to go and achieve success by taking action.

My concern is that some people may treat NLP as some kind of religion
that you only need to have faith in for it to work. NLP is a skill
that is developed through practice and regular use.

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