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mASF post by "zarathustra_fi"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2005

On 6/6/05 2:47:00 PM, PlayerQ20 wrote:


>Gentlemen -
>This has been quite a battle.
>Here's the situation:
>About three weeks ago I was at
>a bar, saw this hot girl
>checking me out quickly, so I
>went over to where she was
>sitting with her group, picked
>up a piece of food from her
>plate and just started eating

Very good man.

>Wednesday (4 weeks ago)
>Her: You don't have to pretend
>to like quesadilla's just to
>talk to me.
>PlayerQ20: Believe me, I am
>not pretending.

Something more playful like:"I prefer to byte necks and drink blood" (with
wierd smile) would have been better.

>After some convo, she grabs my
>phone and puts her number in
>it before she leaves. I send
>her a quick text after I leave
>the bar and she replies right
>Thursday (4 weeks ago)
>The next morning she sends me
>another text asking for my

This is because her state changed in the meanwhile and is finding a way to
control herself better, maybe she has a bf and does not want you to call or
whatever. Also she was building a strong leading frame on you with her
frames..from the beginning.. and you did not notice..She gave you AIs and is
attracted to you.. so I do not understand WTF you did after this Man???

I tell her I'm heading
>downtown to take care of some
>stuff and ask her what she's
>doing for lunch. We end up
>meeting for lunch.
>The bill is like $28 and she
>pays $20.

Good, you are about 71% the prize.

So, I walk her back
>to her office, kiss her
>briefly, tell her that I'm
>going out of town for the
>weekend but I'll give her a
>buzz when I get back.
>Sunday (4 weeks ago)
>We've been exchanging text
>messages throughout the
>weekend, and we end up meeting
>up at her place Sunday night.
>Great conversation and we make
>out as I leave.

Ok now let me ask you this question: why did you not fuck her at THIS point?

>Tuesday (3 Weeks ago)
>We chat for about half an
>hour. It was a bitch to get
>her on the phone - she never
>answers - and I had to neg her
>quite a bit via text before
>she finally calls.
>Thursday (3 weeks ago)
>I get wasted. I mean blackout
>wasted, and I had told her
>that I would call her on
>Thursday to arrange a meet for
>fri. So, I did call her, but
>I also lost my cell and called
>her like 5 times that night
>apparently. I just kept
>forgetting that I had called

What happens to you here? You picked her up and you did not fuck her when you
had the opportunity and now you keep forgetting? What´s the matter? You don´t
like her? Are you scared of her? Or what?

>Friday (3 weeks ago)
>AM: I send her an email saying
>sorry I forgot to call her on
>Thursday =] She writes back
>saying it was some kind of
>record and throws a smiley
>face in the email. Cool. She
>is going out of town for the
>weekend. We trade a few text
>messages over the weekend.
>Tuesday (2 weeks ago)
>She sends me an email, we
>exchange a few messages during
>the day while we're both at
>work and she says she's going
>to call me at work. Never

Because while you play with telephones and email she is first wondering why the
hell you did not fuck her, yet and after loosing attraction.

>Wednesday (2 weeks ago)
>Sends me an email apologizing
>saying she got really busy.
>Right... But she wants me to
>call her at the office.

Another frame from her. If you read your post again you will find many times
situations where 1. She builds a frame 2. You react to it.

You did quit well in the pickup (except that you let her in that situation to
build some dominant frames on you, too) but after you ARE NOT LEADING HER.

>leave her a message about 5
>hours after she sends this
>email and she calls me at the
>office right back. We agree
>to hang out Wednesday night, I
>tell her to call me at 8:30
>after she gets done with her
>8:50 she sends my roommate a
>text - I'm still using his
>cell at this point - saying
>she hopes I don't hate her but
>that she has to cancel, she
>just got home and is
>exaughsted and leaving
>tomorrow morning for vacation.
>9:06 I call - no answer
>obviously - and send her a
>text back saying cancelling
>last minute is never cool even
>if she does have a new job.

Call on bullshit will not work here and even make situation worse. I think your
mistake was not to fuck her when you were making out. If she is horny this is a
too long wait for her.

>Friday (2 weeks ago)
>I send her a text at about
>4:30 in the morning.

>Saturday (2 weeks ago)
>She sends a reply at 8:30 PM
>Sunday (2 weeks ago)
>I send a reply at 7 PM -
>Tuesday (last week)
>I leave her a voicemail
>telling her to call me when
>she gets a chance

Man you make love with her over electronic devices? Seducing a woman is like in
the jungle. You nail her against a wood. If she is in her cave she is WORTHLESS
TO YOU unless she comes out.

This is THE RULE.

>Friday (last week)
>I send her an anti-flake email

Totally unnecessary. What you should have done to fix the mistake of not
fucking her when you had opportunity would have been to STRUCTURE ONE

Like:"Honey, I am at my flat tomorrow at 5pm. I want to show you my collection
of CDs. Buy me a beer please and come up then."

If she comes you fuck her. If she gives explanations LONG SILENCE FROM YOU AND
together on a isolated beach where you can fuck her in a solitary boat.

I mean you do need Mystery method» if a chick has to be pulled our of her social
circle to isolation but MY GOD! A chick who already let´s you to be with her in
isolation at her flat!

Actually by doing it in this complicated way you just waste your own time. It
is much more direct and simpler than this.


>and may actually go out on
>Saturday night
>if you're going to be around
>that evening.

She knows she is in the cave and is waiting for you to tell her:"Come out of
there so I fuck you or get lost!" She is playing with you now or simply being

>I give you props - I'm not a
>fan of the social timeline
>either. If you're not happy
>you do something about it.
>Glad things are working out.

She is even telling you between the lines:"Please LEAD ME!"

Next time you pickup a girl follow this scheme:

- Pickup > (whatever method you like here to attract and seduce her) > fuck her
as soon as possible in isolation.

If for some reason this is not possible go to scheme II.

- Pickup > (whatever method you like here to attract her) II meeting >
(whatever method you like here to attract her) > fuck her as soon as possible
in isolation.

As a rule: you have one bullet in your gun. You structure ONE OPPORTUNITY and

Never anymore so many electronic devices and so much procrastination unless you
don´t find a new technique to fuck chicks over mobile telephones..:)

Anyway anti-flake text was good but not needed with her. HER FLAKING WAS IN
LEADING HER INTO IT. Normally flaking is a result of too little attraction but
I think she was attracted to you from the beginning but lost it for your
procrastination. She wanted to have sex with you. Or why do you believe she was
giving you an AI at the beginning?

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