mASF post by "johnny tsunami"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2005I have a question about Swinggcat's method of qualifying; I'll post it as a
refresher.
"Qualifying & Challenging them:
What I am going to suggest is going to sound a bit odd to you but it absolutely
works. And what I am going to suggest is designed for really hot adventurous
girls--that's what I screen for. This shit really works for me: meaning that
when I go to bars lately I am at the very least consistently making out with
girls. And often times, getting them to buy into the frame of doing a threesome
with me.
Almost, as soon as I start talking to a chick, I begin qualifying her. For
example, I might say to them: you seem like you might be adventurous, are you?
If they say yes (which they often times do, and if they don't, then I am not
interested in them anyways), then I say:
"Good because if you weren't I was going to walk away because I am only friends
with adventurous people...And even though you might be adventurous, I don't
know
if this relationship is going to work out because I am not sure you can handle
me."
Then I will do the same thing about spontaneity.
Are you spontaneous? Good, then we can hang out. But I don't know how
spontaneous you are yet, so I can't take you to any of my cool places yet.
Then I will ask them about the craziest place they ever had sex (now some of
you
are thinking: how can he do this so early on in the conversation? The reason I
"can" is that I have already gotten them to commit to being adventurous and
spontaneous, so, through the principle of commitment and consistency, they have
to be consistent with what they have committed to. If they act prudish, then
they will come across as if they are lying about being adventurous and
spontaneous). Then they will usually ask me: where craziest place I ever had
sex
was. Then I go into a variant of Style's "fucked my girlfriend at a sex show in
a foreign country" story.
Then I continue qualifying them by telling them that I am only friends with
girls who are into girls too (this sets the stage for threesome activities). If
they say, "no", then I tell them that we could never be friends because she
cannot hang with my level of adventure (it is funny to see how many girls
become
bi after this).
Then I talk about kissing. Then I say to them: on a scale of 1-10 how good of a
kisser are you. They usually will say a ten (hot chicks want to sustain their
value as a hot chick). Then I kiss them. Why does this work? This works because
I am challenging three things she has committed to being true about who she is:
How adventurous she is, how spontaneous she is, and how good of a kisser she
is.
Some of you might not be getting this yet, so let I will go a little more in
depth on what I am up to.
Making myself appear vulnerable:
Not only does qualifying and challenging work, it dispels any player vibe they
had about me because I am making myself vulnerable. In other words, I am
telling
the chick that I am a sucker for adventurous, spontaneous bi girls—I am telling
them how to seduce me. But here's the catch: as soon as she does not play by my
rules, I close up. So, I am a vulnerable guy as long as she is playing by my
rules. As soon as she isn't, I become cold and aloof. Or even worse, I next
her."
*Swinggcat; Qualifying & Challenging them:
What I am going to suggest is going to sound a bit odd to you but it absolutely
works. And what I am going to suggest is designed for really hot adventurous
girls--that's what I screen for. This shit really works for me: meaning that
when I go to bars lately I am at the very least consistently making out with
girls. And often times, getting them to buy into the frame of doing a threesome
with me.
Almost, as soon as I start talking to a chick, I begin qualifying her. For
example, I might say to them: you seem like you might be adventurous, are you?
If they say yes (which they often times do, and if they don't, then I am not
interested in them anyways), then I say:
"Good because if you weren't I was going to walk away because I am only friends
with adventurous people...And even though you might be adventurous, I don't
know
if this relationship is going to work out because I am not sure you can handle
me."
Then I will do the same thing about spontaneity.
Are you spontaneous? Good, then we can hang out. But I don't know how
spontaneous you are yet, so I can't take you to any of my cool places yet.
Then I will ask them about the craziest place they ever had sex (now some of
you
are thinking: how can he do this so early on in the conversation? The reason I
"can" is that I have already gotten them to commit to being adventurous and
spontaneous, so, through the principle of commitment and consistency, they have
to be consistent with what they have committed to. If they act prudish, then
they will come across as if they are lying about being adventurous and
spontaneous). Then they will usually ask me: where craziest place I ever had
sex
was. Then I go into a variant of Style's "fucked my girlfriend at a sex show in
a foreign country" story.
Then I continue qualifying them by telling them that I am only friends with
girls who are into girls too (this sets the stage for threesome activities). If
they say, "no", then I tell them that we could never be friends because she
cannot hang with my level of adventure (it is funny to see how many girls
become
bi after this).
Then I talk about kissing. Then I say to them: on a scale of 1-10 how good of a
kisser are you. They usually will say a ten (hot chicks want to sustain their
value as a hot chick). Then I kiss them. Why does this work? This works because
I am challenging three things she has committed to being true about who she is:
How adventurous she is, how spontaneous she is, and how good of a kisser she
is.
Some of you might not be getting this yet, so let I will go a little more in
depth on what I am up to.
Making myself appear vulnerable:
Not only does qualifying and challenging work, it dispels any player vibe they
had about me because I am making myself vulnerable. In other words, I am
telling
the chick that I am a sucker for adventurous, spontaneous bi girls—I am telling
them how to seduce me. But here's the catch: as soon as she does not play by my
rules, I close up. So, I am a vulnerable guy as long as she is playing by my
rules. As soon as she isn't, I become cold and aloof. Or even worse, I next
her."
- Swinggcat
Here's what I understand, the neg hit doesn't work without the right attitude
and tonality behind it therefore this won't work without such. Swinggcat, who
understands this concept, courteously gives us the idea that it must presented
in a vulnerable manner. This part seems vague to me, any thoughts?
tsunami
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