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PIMPS vs. Players (Attn: PlayerSupreme)
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mASF post by "gunit"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2005

On 4/25/05 3:00:00 PM, PlayerSupreme wrote:
>LOL and respectfully discuss
>we shall.


>All of this seduction stuff
>that your reading is coming
>from many of these authors
>studying the pimp game.
>Carlos Xumes is noted for
>stating this fact in his
>recent e-book on dating.

I don't know him, but I can easily believe this.

>The techniques that your using
>such as isolation, neg-hits,
>c&f, it all came from the pimp

Who was the first or one of the first pimps?

>I will not argue what your
>opinion on anyone who pimps
>is, cause that is individual
>to each person.


>But as for level of game, the
>pimp does have the most power
>over women than a meer player.

Could we say that a PIMP is controlling and domeneering (he has to be for his
purposes) while a player is dominant and in control?

>A player is a guy who hasn't
>learned to control himself or
>his libido:

Agree and disagree.

Let's make a distinction. There is a societal player - that guy hitting on
every chick (only or mostly in his social circle) and doing nothing to improve
his chances, and also not learning from his mistakes. There is also the PUA,
who studies how women work inside out and uses that to his advantage. The PUA
does not come off sleazy like a player and is in control of himself in the
sense that he is sexual (not horny) but not needy.

>That thang that goes on inside
>your head, Whitey calls the
>brain. But in pimp school it's
>called the Boss. That thang
>between your legs White calls
>genitals, but in pimp school
>it's called the Jones. Now if
>your Jones overrules the Boss,
>that mean you gonna be a
>trick. But if your Boss
>overrules your Jones, then
>that means you gonna be a
>Master Pimp.
>....a pimp is simply a real
>man. A man that had total
>control over his desires and
>emotions at all times. He
>doesn't allow himself to
>become a servant to p*ssy but
>instead to control and
>dominate it as only a Master
>--The Pimps Rap

This makes sense and a PUA will adopt a similar mindset.

>Now to cut off your next
>statement about PUA's not
>being slaves to pussy. Look
>at your style, chasing every
>woman that walks buy in an
>effort to score just some ass.

Exactly how would a pimp get a new chick? Would she approach him and ask to be
his? Would he make eye contact and then approach her?

>Look at all of the techniques
>focused on just getting laid.

They are focused on getting laid because getting laid (over and over) is the
goal. Another goal is to have great multiple reltaionships with those women
that you like particularly.

>Now look at the level of the
>pimp. He gets laid and paid.

And that is a pimp's goal. Consider who he is getting laid by. Would you please
address the following comment by me
"From what I know of pimping a large part of the game is screening for LSE
girls with no $$."

>You are struggling just to get
>a date of which you may or may
>not but mostly will pay for.

When we don't each pay our way my gf pays when we spend time tog. If she is a
college student with no $$ I will pay. If she got $$ she will pay everything. I
am no pimp.

>The pimp doesn't need to get a
>date, he is too busy getting


>Which is better to you?
>A) To constantly struggle for
>B) To have total control over
>If you picked B then your
>looking at the level of pimp
>vs player.

You are using a double bind. How about
C) To constantly get pussy and have more pussy than you can handle. I
personally am not there yet, but I know guys who are and I am catching up fast.

>The player plays himself cause
>of his jones (addiction) to
>pussy. I do realize that
>there is this thing going
>around on the internet about
>becoming real men and not
>focusing on pussy, but let's
>be real, how many are actually
>doing that. Why don't you
>visit Sosuave sometime and you
>will see the sad results.

Sosuave is very AFC with a good tip now and then. I agree that most guys there
and here on ASF don't do what they are supposed to do, but that's a whole other

>I do hope that by now you can
>see the different levels of
>the game each is in. When you
>can learn to control yourself,
>then you learn to control
>others cause they will no
>longer have any power over

I can see that the goals of a pimp and a pua are different and they each adopt
their game to better suite their goals. I would not say that a pimp is more

>Look at the thread on this
>section by that guy
>Charlesthis or something like
>that where he has his girls
>computer bugged. Is he in
>control of his pussy or even
>himself? NO.

Well, he is not a PUA.

>He falls under catagory A.

While a PUA falls into category C.

>It's funny your asking me this
>right now cause I just found
>an old book of mine by the
>pimp Rosebudd and was looking
>over his mental notes to
>1. Be cold. I think recently I
>posted about not being
>emotional with women.
>2. A Nigga's gotta learn: On
>all of these sites you guys
>preach always learn and teach
>yourself new game and educate
>3.A Pimp has to make sense out
>of nonsense. Look at sosuave
>again and you will see players
>who can't see reality. They
>are using a funny word called
>womanese to give women more
>power than they deserve cause
>they can't understand em.
>4. When you don't see em,
>don't panic. How many fools
>have you seen panic stricken
>cause their girl didn't call
>them one night and they were
>up wondering what was going
>5. A nigga's gotta watch what
>he says cause a bitch will try
>to use it against you in the
>end. Priceless advice on your
>convo skills.
>6. Remember to pace yourself
>and don't get too far ahead of
>a bitch. More convo skills.
>When your getting into her
>mind don't go too fast cause
>bitches are about emotions not
>facts and figures.
>And the list goes on for 7
>more notes. Now this was
>developed way back in the
>1970's. YES I SAID THE

Have you read the book "The Art of Seduction". You may be surprised to discover
that many of the ideas that you believe to have come from pimp game were
invented (or at least used unconciously) much, MUCH earlier than the 1970s.
There is a guy in the archives (Svengali) who judging by his age operated in
the 1970s. His stuff is really good too.

>When I said many current
>authors are getting their game
>from the pimp game, I was dead
>serious. Unfortunately I must
>go to my gym and train a
>client now, so I will continue
>this in about 1 hour if you
>need further info.

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