mASF post by "Aghora"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, May 5, 2005I am an rAFC, and have been sarging only a few months, so take all my advice
with a pinch of salt.
I haven't faced exactly same situation as you, but have had a couple of similar
cases.
>HBBitchShield: Wow that is the
>most elaborate pickup line
>I've ever heard.
The following happened a couple of months back, I don't remember the exact
details.
Me and my wing were at a latino club. My wing had crashed and burned from a
couple of sets because they did not speak english. So we open this HB (very
intimidating, nearly 6 feet tall, superb body, mulatto) with "Hey guys, do you
speak English?".
Well, she did, and it seemed to irritate her. She said something on the lines
of "Is this your best pickup line? is this the best you can do? you guys better
be good" etc. etc.
I don't know what came over me, but I replied by putting it back onto her. I
asked her exactly what gave her the idea that we are trying to pick her up? I
think I also asked her exactly how many pickup lineshave been thrown at her
tonight anyway?
This turned the tables. If she gives me straight answers, she qualifies herself
to me. If she gives a low number, it does not speak well for her. If she give a
high number, it looks like she only attracts chumps.
This really opened her to me, she introduced many of her friends, was totally
leaning into me. Too bad I ejected when her BF came along. It was funny though,
since here was this nearly 6' HB leaning in and touching and throwing IOIs at
this 5'7" guy (me:-)
Another thing I have noticed is that when girls don't open very well (for
example, they give you simple, short, terse answers to opinion openers), the
Powerpuff Girls routine works like a charm. I wish there were more like these.
BT spikers with just one or two sentences.
My guess is that you can use anything that qualifies them for this, (or neg
them, but I have never negged anyone consciously, so can't authoritatively
comment on that) like sexual predators, or best friends etc.
Personally I am trying to move away from canned stuff. The best routine is
something that captures her current reality in a funny manner.
Also dude, you gotta be a little careful with routines. Calibrate them
according to targets. The other night I used belly button opener with some
older chicks, and immediately I could sense the hurt in their faces, like I am
unfairly punching them in the soft spot. I ejected. If I remember correctly,
something like this has happened with my wing too. In fact, the HB asked him
outright if he was making fun of her age.
Just my $0.02
Aghora.
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"It's your world, your perception, your reality...she is merely IN it" -
MrSex4uNYC
On 5/15/05 2:06:00 AM, drstrange wrote:
>First off, I want to give all
>you guys props. I would never
>have thought to try this stuff
>on my own. I am into my second
>month of sarging and a lot of
>the material here is spot on.
>
>I've been using an opinion
>opener - "My buddy's mom just
>got her belly button pierced
>and its the same one as his
>girls .... " Which hasn't
>failed to get a laugh, despite
>the fact that there is a shit
>test forthcoming.
>
>HBBitchShield: Wow that is the
>most elaborate pickup line
>I've ever heard.
>DS: That was a pickup line?
>HBBitchShield: Well, it was A
>LINE.
>DS: Oh. It's actually a true
>story.
>
>They had turned away so I
>ejected. I continued on and
>opened another set of 7's, got
>shit tested again. This time I
>tried to think about how I
>should react to this shit
>test:
>
>HBSmoke: Nice try, but that's
>not a real story.
>DS: Hmmm, weird. What makes
>you think it is not real? It's
>a pretty wacky story, you
>can't make up stuff like that.
>HBSmoke: Just the way you said
>it...It sounds like you've
>told it before.
>DS: I think its uncanny and I
>have told a few of my friends.
>My buddy is showing up later
>and I'll let ask him about it
>if you want.
>
>I was able to recover and got
>rapport for 10 minutes and
>ejected. I don't feel like my
>response was ideal in this
>situation though. In
>retrospect the following type
>of approach seems like it
>might work better:
>
>DS: Oh, that's cute that you
>think I am hitting on you -
>but you're not my type.
>HBSmoke: You don't even know
>me.
>DS: No, I'm just being shallow
>:). Your eyebrows move every
>time you talk...that would
>freak me out.
>
>I'll field test this and see
>what happens. No doubt I'll be
>shit-tested on this again, but
>I don't even think I am going
>to adjust my approach at all.
>Passing these types of shit
>tests will be good practice.
>
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>-----------------------------
>SELF ANALYSIS:
>
>All in all it was a pretty
>amusing night. The first set I
>opened thought I was
>pan-handling! They twenty
>years older than me so
>obviously I wasn't hitting on
>them. I think the reason for
>all the shit tests is I came
>off a little high-strung. I
>wasn't relaxed. I need to work
>on this. When I've been out
>with friends and sarging, I've
>been able to get in state and
>feeling social pre-sarge. This
>will come with experience and
>I just need to keep at it.
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