mASF post by "Tokyopua"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, July 7, 2005Bashev,
Dude, did I meet you at the Austin Summit? I know from the Houston press
article that you were there, but... mail me offline to jog my memory.
Anyway, great post, I havent listened to the file yet, but I am most curious to
know how you got 5 wingwomen who all know about the game enough to give you
specific information about your PU attempts on these chicks?
TokyoPUA
On 7/22/05 12:40:59 PM, roumen_aka_bashev wrote:
>Bashev -- My Participation on
>8MinuteDating
>HoustonLair.com
>July 21, 2005
>
>Here is the Link for the mp3
>download Winrar file (contains
>4 mp3s)
>Right click
>http://forum.houstonlair.com/m
>edia/Bashev_on_8MinuteDating.r
>ar
>and select "Save As" (Internet
>Explorer) Note: 60 MB download
>
>The below is a time annotation
>accompanying the recordings of
>my
>experience at 8MinuteDating.
>8MinuteDating is a
>speed-dating service
>where you meet 10 women, 8
>minutes each. The allowed age
>range is 23-
>32. If you like someone, you
>take down their name and
>assigned number
>and give it to the company.
>They inform you if there is a
>mutual match.
>Credit for my participation
>goes to phillosophy who
>couldn't show up
>and was the reason for a
>routine as my tag showed his
>name. I raised
>my value by busting on his
>non-show.
>
>At such an event you meet the
>hosts at the door and you are
>free to
>mingle until the event starts.
>The event was in a cool artsy
>lounge
>in downtown Houston which is
>on my sarging list, so the
>environment
>was familiar to me. There were
>other regular customers
>around, but
>the couches were reserved for
>the event. There was a
>20-minute mixin
>break half-way.
>
>It is important to work the
>room as soon as you enter --
>approaching
>both guys and girls before
>start. I was surprised to find
>the women
>at this event were attractive,
>in the 23-28 range. I
>proceeded to
>establish a home base. Using
>an opinion opener, I hooked to
>a non-
>event 3-set at the bar which
>contained a 9. I held the set
>strong. I
>told them they are going to be
>my wingchicks and they all
>played
>along with it.
>
>The first recording begins
>with me getting a Courtesy
>Cheer from my
>wingchicks as I meet Bianca.
>
>Bianca - 8.5 waitress, seemed
>younger than 23
>
>00:08 - I get Courtesy Cheer
>from my wingchicks (credit:
>David D. )
>00:45 - Name introduction
>00:47 - Catfight
>opening/routine (modified
>Mystery)
>01:53 - Qualifying questions
>after routine
>02:20 - She is a waitress and
>she spilled water on a
>customer! Keep
>the neg in mind for later.
>02:53 - Qualifying myself:
>mentioning my best female
>friends which
>are bartenders
>03:50 - Value extraction:
>"Would you do that?"
>04:50 - Me: "Are you nervous
>now?"
>05:00 - Me: "Keep your
>shoulders up. That corrects
>your posture"
>05:40 - Backwards-referring
>neg: "So did you spill milk on
>your
>girlfriend's baby?"
>07:10 - Time to show her my
>base for social proof: I point
>to my
>wingchicks. I tell her they
>are my friends! When we look
>at them, one
>of the wingchicks visibly
>winks at me.
>07:35 - Cheating boyfriend
>routine & discussion
>08:50 - She: "People dont come
>to me for advice."
>Me: "Let me see your hand." I
>go to palmistry and tell her
>... well ... people dont come
>for her for advice.
>10:35 - She: "Brad Pitt is a
>dog."
>Running a pattern (weak) about
>people looking at each
>other's eyes while looking at
>hers at the same time.
>11:20 - Switch signal! I wear
>a necklace with a small bell,
>so I
>bust the hostess that she
>should use my bell for the
>event.
>11:30 - Writing down her name.
>"Did your mother give it to
>you?"
>
>Mariseta - 7.5 elegant,
>professional 28, goes to the
>gym - shaped
>
>00:30 - Catfight
>opening/routine (modified
>Mystery)
>01:23 - The "where are you
>from?" question followed by
>guessing
>02:10 - The "how long have you
>lived here?" question followed
>by
>foot model routine
>03:00 - She: "Do you play
>video games?" Me: "No. But you
>do."
>04:05 - Guessing her age and
>overestimating to lower value
>04:48 - Feeling her biceps
>06:45 - Qualifying her: "What
>are the arsty movie theaters
>in town?"
>She gives several names and
>asks: "Do you think I am
>cheating or
>something?"
>07:34 - "You have a cool name.
>Your mother gave it you."
>07:36 - Weak ending comment on
>my side.
>
>Angie - 7.5 elegant,
>professional 25-28, cool convo
>
>00:30 - Her name is like the
>one of a horse from a movie.
>She tries
>to guess the movie.
>01:50 - "Where are you from"
>followed by foot model
>routine.
>03:10 - She asks me if I would
>like to be cremated or buried.
>I bust
>on her trying to use a pickup
>line on me. She says to an
>acquaintance, "He is pulling a
>lot of shit on me".
>03:30 - Treating me like a
>piece of meat (DYD)
>03:55 - Keeping the frame and
>not answering her cremation
>question
>04:20 - Mystery personality
>conveying routine
>05:00 - Brings cremation
>question back. She: "I would
>not like to be
>cremated, so I can be put back
>together later." I: "I will
>make sure
>you don't".
>05:30 - I AMOG a guy she
>addresses. Me: "Did you give
>her that
>pickup line?"
>06:10 - Bringing my female
>bartender friends in the convo
>and asking
>a "What do you like about
>it?"-style question
>06:50 - She tells me I am
>cool. I already know that.
>07:00 - "Where do you live?".
>Listen to what I say. I say I
>live at
>the end of town at a shack
>with a hammock outside.
>07:40 - Getting into how
>LIBERAL she is.
>08:40 - Super ending. Leave
>her curious about a story.
>
>Cynthia - 7.5 elegant,
>professional 24-25, cool convo
>
>00:25 - My friend chickened
>out, but I am not like him. I
>am here to
>have fun!
>01:35 - Got her! She hasn't
>travelled. Just crying for a
>neg.
>02:25 - Qualify myself and
>introduce a twist to the foot
>model
>routine.
>03:25 - She is a nerd! Follow
>up with
>03:40 - Me: "Do you visit
>match.com?"
>04:50 - little girl and copier
>story (adapted from parkblvd -
>How to
>construct routines available
>from Bristollair.com)
>05:40 - Qualifying her
>06:00 - Mentioning my female
>bartender friends
>08:00 - During communism, they
>used to...
>09:15 - She has a sister. "Do
>you look into each other
>eyes?"
>09:40 - Bell rings. She talks
>over it. IOI.
>10:00 - She: "I am not going
>to meet your shy friend,
>right?" HAHA
>
>Back to the wingchicks
>11:54 - Me: "Guys, give me
>feedback"
>12:15 - They: "So which one?"
>Asking me to show them which
>ones. Me:
>"I will tell you later."
>fluff...
>14:00 - Me: "How do you guys
>know each other?"
>14:50 - The 9 kicks in with
>mentioning "Chocolate". Trying
>Ross
>Jeffries chocolate pattern
>probably puts me in weirdo
>category.
>15:20 - 9 shit tests me -
>makes me say her name -
>"Tammy". I neg
>back - "You are one of those
>sour chocolates. You just
>smile and look
>good on the surface". AHHHHH!
>She talks about how she likes
>to fuck a
>guy who looks sweet on the
>outside. I finish with "I
>think that's
>more valid for guys. I am glad
>you are learning from us".
>
>Lori - 5-6, sexy overweight
>with potential to look much
>better, 25-,
>cool convo
>
>My control set Cooled down
>fluff.
>Field-testing my
>bell-and-sheep routine.
>She recognizes me from the
>HoustonPress article "Keeping
>score".
>I thus make talking about the
>game a routine.
>We talk about my body
>language. She says some guys
>use body language
>to game chicks. Hell yeah she
>is right!
>
>When it was over, the set with
>the 9 had left. Should have
>extracted/found out where they
>are going.
>
>Overall a good exercise in
>rapport and vibing.
>
>So far I have a date with
>Bianca and a friendship
>request with Lori. I
>requested dates with Mariseta,
>Angie, Cynthia, but I suspect
>they might
>enter friendship as they were
>4 years older than me. I will
>give them a few
>dates.
>
>Bashev
>
>Here is some initial feedback
>from my wing phillosophy :
>
>I didn't get a chance to
>finish all the mp3s. Awesome
>experience man! Your
>sets improve with each
>successive set. I wouldn't
>stress age as a factor
>with those women. Since they
>are professional women, I'd
>give them till
>tuesday to respond.
>
>bianca
>- wing cheers - thats awesome
>social proof - they were
>probably forming
>opinions about you while they
>watched you game
>- don't say, "i'm just
>teasing" -- it sounds
>apologetic, say 'did you
>really
>think i was serious?' or 'who
>said i was being serious'
>- good maintaining frame and
>leading the majority of the
>conversation
>- I think you lost the frame
>when she started talking about
>her job, but
>good recovery you got her to
>talk about her emotions and
>getting her
>revealing that she's shy and
>what kind of person she is.
>- good dyd, busting on her
>- she devalued herself by
>saying nobody comes to her for
>advice and she
>doesn't go anywhere
>- good stacking,avoiding the
>silence
>- i'm not sure about the 'did
>your mom give you that name?'
>thing. I'm
>curious how the girls respond
>to it.
>- I'd be surprised if you
>didn't get a date with this
>girl.
>
>
>mariseta
>- good job taking the lead
>- asked how old you are, i
>think you should have gave her
>the dyd 108 years
>old
>- good set, she seemed really
>into you by the end of the set
>- couldn't hear alot of the
>responses on this recording,
>i'll have to listen
>to it again
>
>
>angie
>- just from the greeting, she
>sounds very warm,
>sophisticated, confident and
>knows how to have fun
>- great opening with the horse
>story
>- good call on the sister!
>- great vibing,
>- prisoner number--thats funny
>- sounded like she really
>didn't want you to go
>- Best set i've heard you done
>- i'd be very surprised if you
>guys didn't match up
>- sounds like she has an
>awesome personality
>
>cynthia
>- great vibe
>- get away from the grad
>school stuff...it sounds like
>you lose the frame
>- good "1st grade" routine
>- set sounded like it went
>pretty well.
>
>lori
>- great situational opener -
>"friend tells you you're going
>to a speed
>dating thing around the
>corner"
>- awesome validation, "you're
>one of those ipod girls?"
>- good fluff and just being
>social
>- value went all the way up
>when the article came up.
>- there were some moments
>where it sounded like you
>weren't really
>interested in the girl, but
>when that happened, the girl
>tries to validate
>herself
>
>
>
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