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mASF post by "zarathustra_fi"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, July 7, 2005

On 7/19/05 10:45:00 AM, Jestor wrote:

Thanks Jestor,
this culture of "wanting the best" is widespread here in Helsinki, too.

I find this kind of cultural trend interesting and my questions about HD/LD
where also coming from the suspect that no chick can actually screen for the
best without either:

- Having to control her own sexual desire on the longer term.
- Or have lot of sex with random guys on the side.

The first one is a physical kind of frustration and the second one is an
emotional kind of frustration. Basing on widespreadly accepted psychoanalytical
theories both behaviors are relatively pathological the first one being
neurotic behavior and less pathological and the second one being pathological
borderline behavior. How much of that behavior is a "reaction" and how much a
personality trait is another very important question.

I also agree that one can easily find HSE/HD women in the group of freshly
divorced women who have been with an AFC.

I do not believe that a chick who is longer time without a satisfying emotional
and sexual relationship with a guy ( the so called "eternally" single ladies )
can be very easily considered HSE/HD (except the mentioned exceptional cases
who are able to sublimate for a relatively longe time)

Most likely the "eternally single ladies" are LSE/LD ladies. I am quite sure
that in the biggest towns with strong Secret Society presence most of the
"eternally single ladies" are LSE/LD and the promiscous "so called" sluts who
are eternally single are the LSE/HD ones.

The HSE/LD are also very often married and in longer relationships where they
get the upper hand by "calibrating the sex" with their men and they cheat
exactly when the guy is completely under the control of their 101.

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>On 7/19/05 7:59:00 AM, zarathustra_fi
>wrote:
>>On 7/17/05 2:46:00 PM, Jestor wrote:
>>
>>Jestor,
>>very good post! I have a question for
>>you. You sarge in Toronto and are
>>obviously seeing lot of very "Secret
>>Society" ladies. Due to the HUGE
>>progress you have done I take the
>>freedom of asking a few questions I
>>would be very interested in hearing your
>>opinion about.
>>
>>If you should give an opinion about the
>>strength of their sexual drive would you
>>consider them:
>>
>>- LDs and having sex randomly and rarely
>>only with the rare guys/players who are
>>very Alpha and need them less while
>>performing their 101 on them.
>>- HDs and so having sex with LOT of guys
>>randomly to be able to stand the
>>necessary delay to perform their 101
>>without having to face longer sexual
>>starvation.
>
>I would say there is a high number of
>frustrated HD women, especially the
>women in late 20s and 30s. I do not
>think these women are having sex with a
>lot of guys, just because of the way
>they use their 101 and the extent of it
>(and the few men who can pass their
>tests). The problem is that there are
>so many beta men offering these women
>the world that their first offense is to
>test the man STRINGINTLY before giving
>him any sex. Many of these women can go
>for MONTHS without sex just because they
>haven't met the right guy yet. Some are
>LD but many I think are just very
>frustrated HD. But despite this they
>still screen HARD. It is part of the
>culture of wanting the "very best".
>
>I have to really monitor my behavior
>with these women. I ESPECIALLY have to
>keep my value high in between dates. I
>have found that I can dominate and
>attract during the date but if I try to
>set up another date afterwards too soon,
>they react very negatively by
>withdrawing (esp. true for Secret
>Society/jaded women). There is a HUGE
>mismatch between a HOT DATE and planning
>too soon for another one, in terms of
>passion and sexual chemistry/tension.
>So this is why I say you need to
>disappear after the HOT DATE and make
>them wait a while before another one.
>The exception to this is if they take
>the initiative FIRST, usually...but I'm
>still not totally clear on the dynamics
>of this (yet)...as there are some women
>who will take this opportunity to
>cock-tease and make you work even harder
>(psychos).
>
>>And evaluating self-esteem how many of
>>them are LSE and how many HSE in your
>>opinion? Also do you believe that being
>
>I would say it's about 60/40
>LSE/HSE...but I'm totally guessing here
>
>>very HSE and being sexually promiscous
>>can cohesist in the same person?
>
>Yes, especially if they are recently
>divorced and have been with an AFC for
>many years.
>
>>Which one of the two groups is more
>>represented in your opinion between the
>>women you sarge there?
>
>It depends on the age range. With women
>in their late 20s and 30s an image of
>HSE (independence, knowing what you
>want) is more represented. But with the
>younger girls, LSE is more represented
>(relying on friends' opinions on men,
>wanting to be wined and dined to fit in
>with the culture).
>
>>There are also very RARE HD HSE chicks
>>who - while being able to be very HD in
>>a relationship with the right guy - are
>>also able to control/sublimate their
>>sexual desire for longer time if the
>>right guy is not available for a reason
>>or another ( my actual wife is one of
>>them ). For example they can take very
>>long periods of "dating" without going
>>into casual sex, until they find what
>>they want.
>
>Yes, I think there's quite a few of
>these women here too. But that's part
>of the culture of wanting the best, at
>the expense of sexual frustration.
>
>---------------------------------------
>"So what you don't want to fuck me! Do
>you have any idea how many chicks have
>pussies and mouths??" - MrSex4uNYC




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