mASF post by "beerbonghangover"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2002I like this dude's posts as they challenge the ideas around here.
<gunwitch> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Women when asked "whats SEXY in a man"? 9 of ten times say "confidence".
>
> Lets look at this. What do they mean? Why is "confidence" so SEXY?
>
> Cause they wanna fuck RIGHT AWAY, LIKE YESTERDAY. They KNOW that they
want a
> guy to come up and take em hard and fast they just cant come out and say
it
> without looking like a whore.
>
> BTW when they say they "LIKE a guy with a sense of humor" they arent
saying
> THAT guy is SEXY they are saying they LIKE that guy. THESE women are
REALLY
> trying to cover up thier desires.
>
> Get this same chik alone after not "making a funny" in her presence ONCE
but
> instead rubbing her legs and thighs every chance you got and youve got a
wet
> vage on your hands.
OK. But I've come on hard and fast before. It doesn't ALWAYS work. Sure on
easier chicks or UG's. But 8 and 9's don't even give you a chance. They'll
flake, ignore you, go cold, etc..
> Confidence also shows that you have SOMETHING of value to hher or else oh
my
> god "how could you act like that". I didnt used to be capable of coming on
> extremely strong UNTIL i got in better shape than almost any guy around
and
> realized "im the fuckin shit" "im better than other guys" "i DESERVE these
> chiks to wax my pole".
>
> My excellent body of course SHOWS her something of value as well, but it
aint
> all that, its just enough for ME to feel good about moving on em like
something
> out of a porn scene. Some of you said this when i was on my "loos are all
that
> count" rants. Which IS true for me or any other guy who needs to look good
> before getting confident enough to not apologize for being pushy towards
sex.
So are you saying looks count or don't?
> Funny thought: You wanna learn good seduction tactics watch pornos. They
get
> em alone, look at em like "yeah im GONNA fuck you" get in close with KINO
and
> EC and say something to the effect of "lets do some fuckin" before they
comence
> to kiss close.
>
> Womens definition of confidence isnt acting nonchalant or cool and
collected
> its TRYING TO ISOLATE AND PLUG EM fast and furious. I am starting to think
that
> women and men operate almost identical given the right circumstance and
> approach.
>
> Approach em as some strange computer that needs some special programming,
as
> the convention of this NG and SS suggests and BOOM she becomes a difficult
> entity. Approach her like shes a horny desperate guy needing to get laid
and
> youve got her TRUE nature figured out.
SS seems a little convoluted but I think this NG stresses kino and different
ways of inducing excitement in the target. I think this is all that matters
is that they want *excitement*.
> ANY other strategy is amateur CRAP and is apologetic.
>
> I realize that ther is a certain entertainment value of studying
seduction and
> analyzing its complexities, but whats the REAL goal. TO GET LAID ALOT,
whenever
> you want by whoever you want.
Are you laying 8-10's? Or are your choices 6-7's like some of us?
> When RJ ad other seduction gurus started writing thier stuff they thought
> "hmmmmm if i tell guys women think MUCH differently than they do, theyll
> believe it when i say guys looks dont count at all" "cause if they DO
think
> like us then LOOKS are ALL that counts and guys know this".
>
> Thing is they DO think like us and this is why LOOKS dont count.
What?
> How many of
> you if isolated with a chik thats say a 5 looks wise(little fat, kinda
ugly
> face, ok hair or something) whos doing everything she can to get your
pants off
> and suck your cock are gonna say to yourself "WHOA shes not good enough
> looking?" PLEASE we'd ALL fuck her.
I've had this happen many times and didn't fuck them. Now I have many
buddies who have but it's just not going to happen with me. Maybe like two
6's can have me at once or something.
> Women are the same. Diference is we pump
> and dump, while women are SOOOO conditioned they try to make any ugly fuck
they
> happen to bang their LTR for fear of being a "slut who has ONS with ugly
guys".
> NOPE at that point you become "special" in some way to her that she will
make
> up for you. Loving, deep, caring, good in bed, funny, intelligent blah
blah bla
> even if you arent.
Thing is some of us are more talented, intelligent, funny, outgoing, etc..
You're telling me this doesn't get us anywhere? I mean you have to be smart
in some way to be a smart ass. And smart asses will get more. Actually I've
gotten more play since dumbing down my game so maybe you have something
here.
> Thing is this is hard to sell and isnt as enthralling or entertaining as
doing
> mental exercises and 12 hour seminar discussions on the subject.
I agree and don't care for being hypnotized. Feeling good about yourself
comes from results.
> Do you wanna get laid? THEN try to fuck em. Simple as that. Dont try to
> demonstrate value, or convince her or make her imagine it, just get em
alone
> and try to fuck em.
What about social proof? I KNOW this shit is important. And playing the
girls off one another. And making your life sound really exciting? And
having something unique that she wants to know more about. You're telling us
this stuff means nothing?
> We would all be better off trying to find a model or how to isolate women
and
> how to convey extreme sexual interest and aggression than what we do at
this
> point.
I agree. Let us know what you're coming up with. I'll put my two cents in.
Like I grab their wrist and bring them in another room with me. Kino, kino,
etc.. But I knew I was in with these 6's. But you're telling me I can *bam*
do this with a 9 and get laid tonight?
> THIS is what ive learned so far with this strategy
>
> I'VE found "im having a barbecue later wanna come back to my place" WHILE
im
> already kinoing and ECing her up close and personal works well at GYM and
on
> street. While "Lets save a little money and have some drinks back at my
place"
> WHILE already KINOing and ECing her up close and maybe already having kiss
> closed her works at the bar. If not ill NEXT, but havent had to yet.
You're always getting laid with this? Like 100%?
> You know youve got a horny pushover on your hands when as you KINO and EC
them
> right up close they look down and smile and giggle alot.
>
> About the best opener on street is standard introdutions, sneaking into
KINO
> slowly during short conversation followed by "i like you alot i wanna know
you
> better" with blatat kino and HUNGRY EC. Follwed by attempt to isolate.
>
> Sounds scary to some of you im sure but it works. MY friends have all
told me
> i look fuckin NUTTS doin this shit so blatant and fast on the street but
its
> like i tell them "whats she gonna do hit me with her purse or tell store
> security on me lol"
>
> GYM opener is roughly same only with GYM chat instead of "from round
here"
> type of shit.
>
> AT the bar i hardly even talk, as talking go me really nowhere most times
at
> the bar anyway. THOSE GIRLS ARE THERE TO FUCK FOR SURE. They just never
get to
> caue they got some asshole TALKING to em instead of trying to fuck em. Get
em
> on the dance floor to get KINO and EC going then hit em with the "have
some
> drinks back at my place"
>
> FUCKIN JAMES BOND STYLE NIGGA!
Because of this post I'm going to be closing earlier from now on, otherwise
Gunwitch will already be having her in the bathroom stall.
beerbonghangover
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