mASF post by "ox"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, June 6, 2005On 6/16/05 6:59:00 AM, razorjack wrote:
>On 6/16/05 3:29:00 AM, ox wrote:
>>On 6/15/05 11:42:00 AM, razorjack wrote:
>..
>
>>>Now use your brain here and think.
>>>Pretend you are one of these guys. Which
>>>approach would you use and why?
>>>
>>Hey razorjack
>>
>>Thanks for going such a great length..i
>>really apréciate it…
>
>You're welcome.
>
>>you really helped me
>>answer a couple of questions…
>
>But we haven't even scratched the
>surface cuz you are NOT answering my
>questions!
>
>>Now, if that is the whole point behind
>>direct, I have to say I am not very
>>impressed with it…and if it works for
>>you guys, great. Whatever!
>
>I'm not here to impress you or anyone
>else. I told you the answers are right
>in front of your face but you're
>completely blind to them.
whoa dude no need to get nasty.
>
>>I gotta be honest here. You want me to
>>behave like a fucking millionaire or
>>some celebrity without the mountain of
>>social Proof that these guys have..it
>>clearly doesn’t cut it for me, pu
>>wise…no way. Fucking brat pitt has so
>>much social proo He can actually walk up
>>to any girl and take her without
>>puing…that is not game for me, unless
>>you are a great looking dude. Correct me
>>if I am wrong.
>>
>>You can not tell me I am going to get
>>attraction in the first place just by
>>walking up and saying some random
>>shit…this ballsy approach is only kind
>>of cute and will work if you have the
>>cute face or the social proof of rich
>>people at the top of the pyramid.
>>Basically what you are trying to say I
>>have to act like this people without the
>>social proof or the money these guys
>>have. That will not work consistently.
>>You might screw up more chances than you
>>would succeed, it is like asking a girl
>>to dance: you are giving the girl the
>>easy way out, that is, it is very easy
>>to say no(or screen you out)…you are not
>>giving her much to work with, so unless
>>you are a cutie or you are wearing a ton
>>of jewelry, she will dismiss you..if she
>>doesnt, her cockblock group will take
>>care of your ass.
>>
>>how would you go about acting like a
>>rich dude without the money(fake), or
>>like a celebrity(without the social
>>proof)?
>>Unless you lie about your house on the
>>hill or the ferrari, i dont see it
>>happening.
>>
>>ox
>
>You remember what I wrote about me not
>having the time to type up long ass
>posts to explain every little detail and
>convince guys about my method?
ok. again why you bother then? i thought you enjoyed this.
>Now I got about 10 other posts to
>answer, several emails to answer, I need
>to take care of things to prepare for
>the Euro Summit, have a full day at work
>and I'm supposed to meet up with my mLTR
>tonight.
this really doesnt help me in pu does it? i didnt ask you for this information
nor i am interested in it.
>
>I do NOT have time to sit here and argue
>with you or to convince you of anything.
>You are being skeptical over shit you
>have no clue about and it's getting
>annoying.
what? i have told you i have tried this shit to no success.
>
>Just like dogs have a more acute hearing
>than humans or how cats have a much more
>detailed and sensitive vision than
>humans. Chicks are 1000 times better at
>reading body language and social skills
>than AFCs.
ok i knew this.,
>
>I am trying to show you HOW what I do
>fits in with how chicks intepret things
>in society but you are arguing with me
>about shit you don't know.
tell me about it. i think i got it..
>I'm telling you about the entire marine
>world below the ocean surface and you
>are standing on the beach telling me
>that can't be possible, cuz all you see
>are waves, sailboats, sea birds and blue
>sky.
yeah, isnt it beautiful?
>But I can't show you what's under the
>ocean surface until you stick your head
>under water.
you still havent shown me shit. all you are trying to do is blow me off, well
knock yourself out. i thought we were doing this for education.
>
>Now if you want me to SHOW you and OPEN
>your eyes, then stop arguing with me
nope. i am not arguing. i am just telling you why i dont like direct or dont do
direct. i hate arguing and flaming, but you seem to enjoy it.
and
>answer the question:
>
>>>Now use your brain here and think.
>>>Pretend you are one of these guys. Which
>>>approach would you use and why?
i just told you. ballsy guy opens them direct, doesnt care about the group, he
is socially proofed..that´s the whole point of direct...that´s all you got
going for yourself when you approach like those guys do...i slightly disagree
here though, most of these guys get opened and do not open, and most of all GET
LAID THROUGH SOCIAL CIRCLE, which doesnt teach me shit for puing and cold
approaching. most chicks are introduced to them, they dont have to do much..so
yes i dont have shit to learn from these assholes.
>Then we can go to the next step.
i am ready. let´s go.
>If you want me to teach you then STOP
>arguing and LEARN. If all you want to do
>is discuss PU theory then you are
>wasting my time.
uhh...i thought this is what this web page is for..it is for puing experience
sharing and learning..but i guess i am wrong now..gotta get back to formhandle
on this...come on man, wtf.
>I'm not trying to be an ass, but
>seriously I am offering my time and
>energy here to teach you for FREE and I
>don't have time for this.
so you wanna get paid. you told me you did this for free.
There are
>other guys who are WILLING to learn and
>are learning that are waiting for me to
>reply to their posts.
ok, go ahead. again that doesnt answer my questions and it is unsolicited
information.
you know what. if you really dont want to do this, then dont do it and dont
give me shit about it. i can understand that. really if you are coming back
with some flame shit, please save yourself the time and the space..on the other
hand if you want to discuss/talk/expand direct approach then i am all ears
because i think it is interesting to contrast what i am doing in the field. the
moment somebody shows me evidence direct works i will switch styles because i
am flexible..in the mean time i will stick to what is working for me.
>-Razorjack
>
>"Why do we chase women instead of
>settling for one - like most of the
>other guys in the world? No clue. We are
>a unique class of guys. Maybe we got cut
>off too early from our mother's milk -
>so we spend the rest of our lives
>looking for that same titty again." -
>Zan
pleasure talking to you..
ox
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