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mASF post by "ancestor"
posted on: mASF forum: Playettes Discussion, June 6, 2005

gamingirl wrote:
> Hi Ancestor,
> I didn't feel like replying to the already very long chat back and forth
> posted on "OT: To the guys compelled to post on Playettes" that got way out
> hand. So I'm going to start a fresh page here.
> I wanted to explain a few things to hopefully clarify the matter up a bit.
> First of all personally I'm not a lesbian as far as I know. I mean I could be
> completely wrong, but when I fantasize sexual interactions, I still
> automatically think of a man instead of a women. Yes that could be social
> conditioning and you can say that I'm just in the closet yet. If that's the
> case, then I would really like to know how to com out of it and embrace
> more.

Ok then. I'm sorry for calling you a lesbian. But you were busting my
balls so hard while I tried to positively re-frame all your stuff until
it just was too heavy on me. The only one who ever did that is my
girlfriend and we actually had a fight like this at some stage. Then she
became a lamb. But let's not get into false pretences. It was just a
game and others were looking. Like sparring but with iron bars in the

> Secondly, I don't take offence in people calling me a dyke or a lesbian or
> whatever other names they can come up with. Though it's pretty rare unless I
> tell them I'm bi-curious. I will say I'm quite a bit of a tom-boy at times.
> However I do find I am more into guys who are bi than guys who's really
> straight. That might have something to do with the fact that I studied in
> art and acting. So I do find it easier to relate to guys who are more in
> with their feelings and have a clue when I talk about arts.

I was getting pissed because I am usually playing with girls like this
and it drive THEM nuts. Sometimes to MY nuts, but that's another issue

Also I didn't like it when you tried to re-frame my position into a gay
frame. No. That was over the top for me. The rest was ok. I'm Spanish so
don't mess with that in a macho culture.

> I really did come to this place to learn more about how humans behave and
> their intentions as well as how to be a social seducer. (I'm in the middle of
> reading "the art of seduction") I needed it for my work, as well as having a
> bit of fun of cos. So to see you getting so pissed at me, on one hand it's a
> little harsh to take at first. I have to say even that helped me a lot to
> understand how humans behave. Maybe next time I'll try to be more sensitive.
> Personally I had a lot of fun corresponding with you on the forum. It' my
> hindsight to let it get out of hand. However I did find it very
> stimulating. So for that I sincerely thank you.

Well, well. Happy to help.

You were doing fine just that you were more like personality destroying
than teasing me.

> From the posts I am seeing the tip of the iceberg of how women and men
> differently at a fundamentally level. My mistake in fuming the angry in you,
> which I didn't realize at the time was essentially my own ego. The game is
> addictive to me. anyway, for me it is very exciting to see a guy who match up
> in my style. Of cos I was wrong in my judgement of this. Though for that
> time it was sexually charged and exciting, and it does make me wish a guy can
> do this in real life. Some times I'm too much like a kid, I get so caught up
> playing and not caring about the outcome, that I don't realize the
> consequences. Though if it did happen again, I have to say that I dont think
> anything would have changed. I fail to see how I would have went into the
> rapport stage on an open mASF forum. So this is all fun and games for me and
> I'm sorry that I cant be really involved emotionally here. But I just don't
> think that is even possible for me to even fake. After all this is only a
> virtual place.

I should have followed quitesombodies advice and ejected from game-mode
to the start-up screen and chosen exit. I was unfair to myself. It was
not any longer playful but more like outright aggressive and demeaning.

Oh poor ancestor. Smacking myself in the face!

> Last but not least, I'm glad you still decided to post a reply to my
> about the definition of manipulation in general. Thanks.

:-) It's a line from "Muppets go to Manhattan" from 1984, by the cook in
the cafeteria which is his general response. You're welcome ;-)

> Sincerely,
> Gamingirl

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