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mASF post by "GoneSavage"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, August 8, 2005

KitKatMan—Of course I do stuff that is beyond what is the norm and standard for
them sexually. Every part of my communication is unlike anything they are used
to. I derive the intent of my (PU) artistry from my sexual confidence and
ability. Yes it is an issue of trust and a willingness to be taught, as you
say. I am always leading, teaching, and training in the bedroom (or the van).
I feel like a lot of guys are fucking and they say stuff like, “Do you like
this? Is this good for you? What do you NEED?” I’m more like, “Notice how
good it feels when I do this…now imagine feeling that intensity ten times as
strong, ten times as powerful…okay now I want you to do this…” Leading her
into territory she might not have every experienced.

I’m sure there are really good books on creative writing and expression. I’d
like to find them myself. More importantly, I would like to find the time to
read them. The thing with writing LRs is that they are draining to write.
Time, energy, effort, recall, expression, meh… The reality is that I write them
for myself as a record of my experiences and in a style that is uniquely
reflective of me. It is delusional to think that I record these events for any
other person or reason.

Papi Chulo—I don’t know if I conveyed this in the post, but I was aware that
asking her to articulate her attraction for me was a bit of a risk. But I was
at a point where the convo was not conductive to seduction, so I took the
chance. And I must have had a feeling for it anyway, because it was this risk
itself, as she said boldness or “balls,” that is the core of what she could
express about her liking. I like your summation: “Assume attraction and act
accordingly, have the confidence that you can give her an amazing experience,
have the confidence to communicate to her your intentions and your power to
make her feel deliciously wonderfully.” Very good. I like when guys see the
principles rather than gathering “routines.”

Thrillseeker—This is one of those things that give me mixed feelings about the
. I’m just at odds with people finding “routines” in my art and using
them in rote miscalibrated ways. But of course it is going to happen. We all
borrow from each other and influence each other. I do too of course. Best of
luck with these kinds of themes and threads.

Jlaix—I give off the playerish vibe too often as well. It just seems a normal
reaction based on her prior experiences with guys unlike me. I calibrate
whether to deflect or embrace the notion with each girl. Some themes to work
with depending on the woman and the vibe: the difference between a player and a
playboy, discretion, respect, being refreshingly honest, being picky, finding
her unique, knowing more about her body than her, teaching frames,
deservedness, true romance, etc etc. I really don’t get the notion of “pussy
power.” I have fun with this because I frame our interaction in such a way
that there is absolutely no reason or way I could use or hurt her. Her heart
can’t be broken unless she has an expectation that I don’t share. I explicitly
make it known that I cannot offer any sense of permanence or future. The
stunningly gorgeous woman that I closed last night came from a rough background
of emotionless one-night-stands and she claimed to be on a “sexual strike” with
herself. She saw me as a player and an “imposter.” It took me hours of
reframing and building comfort, but in the end she described it as the most
amazing and “transforming” experience of her life. In fact, two of the last
three (none posted) were successful because of heavy reframing (real paradigm
shifting) and persistence persistence persistence.

Alpha Romeo—where should I be? I’m in love with Montreal, what can I say? I’m
down to my last three or four days though…

Slackass—The best summary I can give you concerning my first interaction is
this: I usually open neutral to not alarm or to give her a chance to put up
pre-programmed defenses. I tell stories that have no moral, no punch line, and
no remarkable point. They’re kind of boring, but told with enthusiasm. They
convey that I am open, spontaneous, observant, and social. Not much else. I
assume that being in my presence is going to allow her to become attracted. I
take everything as an IOI. I keep talking. I ask her playful qualifying
questions and make statements that allow her to picture us doing fun things
together. I’m flirtatious with kino and body language and facial gestures.
I’m sure it is a lot like GWM--but I have not read that text in its entirety.
If I contact close, I make a powerful SOI (see recent posts) that will
*explicitly* let her know that I intend to sweep her off her feet. It also
safely negates the neutral opener now that I have some level of rapport.
That’s day one. And yes, I have lost some *stunners* that were pumped at the
end of our first interaction, but talked themselves out (or whatever) of
meeting me. I have closed three women since the double-date-escapade. They
all three were heavy on building sexual rapport, but in uniquely calibrated
ways. The keys to each were different. The first girl needed lots of powerful
and authoritative sensual talk and all the persistence a man can muster. The
second girl, it was important to qualify and test her sensuality and energy
level and to get her chasing me. The third girl had real issues and needed
reframing and reassurance beyond belief. Persistence, testing, and reframing
were all keys to sexual rapport.

Icedub—Very very good insights. Adapt concepts that you come across and make
them fit your style and outlook on life. Not the other way around. I think
questions to qualify or screen should be playful and thoughtful at the same
time. Be prepared to give your own insightful answer to the same questions. I
am 100% sure of what I can give and take. And it is MUTUAL. It is win-win.
That is what I am becoming more congruent at explaining AND expecting. Mutual
respect, mutual honesty, mutual adoration, mutual sensuality, and to just
together share the moment and the magic within it. Yes—find your own
inspiration and relate between your own life and experiences. Real game is
real life. I approach life as positive and beautiful. And I only use art
metaphors now.

N3RV1—Meh…I have had sex with a different woman the past seven nights in a row.
They are actually all very cute with great personalities and fantastic
individual qualities. But I say BIG DEAL. Most of these women are literally
*begging* for more of my time. I really have to leave this city, and they know
it. I have to document this shit just so it’s no so blurry. Don’t be envious.
My health is a wreck. I have no normal eating or sleeping patterns. I have no
money. I am burning savings as slowly as possible.
I am homeless. I’ll leave you on that note…..

Thanks for all the responses on this post. Love life, GoneSavage

“I play today with a death grip, and play hard-to-get with tomorrow so I don’t
look so fucking desperate…”

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