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"Q&A: Massages, Flirting, And Heavy Breathing" - April 15, 2004

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“Q&A: Massages, Flirting, And Heavy Breathing” - April 15, 2004

Hi David!

Dude... you have saved my life! I used 2 b the king of all Wusses. A supplicating, gift-buying, emotional douche-rag! I shudder in disgust at the way I was. My success story is bittersweet. First bitter, cuz I met this absolute 10, a gorgeous Indian artist chick. very talented and super sharp. I was doing all the right things by accident and ended up spending the night at her house, then I ruined everything by telling her how close I felt to her - like I'd known her for years, etc,etc. BOOOORING!! Needless 2 say, I haven't heard from her since. After banging my head against the wall repeatedly, I got fed up and bought your DVD set. I must be a quick learner cuz 1 month later I am pulling some maneuvers that would make you smile. For instance a few nights ago, I meet this girl at a club ,def a 9, who made C+F soo easy with these horrible shoes she was wearing. Red with white polka dots (ugh!) She started the convo with me by asking for a light. So I fire her up and we make small talk. The whole time I am avoiding looking at her face, giving the most dubious expression at her feet and she finally catches on. "What's wrong?" That's when I drop this, "Did you lose a bet with someone?" She looks perplexed and asks "Why?" "Cuz I can't think of any other reason that you would leave the house looking like this." Shellshocked expression. "Seriously... were you smoking crack when you bought those shoes?" It was truly bizarre to watch her reaction change from utter shock to uncontrollable laughter! I kept it goin all night and she was L-L-Loving it. Finally, I just left her there without saying goodbye! She literally chased me all the way to the exit to get my digits and invite me to her house for dinner. So last night we got together to dine & wine etc. and she is complaining cuz her back hurts. Then I did something that might seem wussy to you, but it worked like a charm. I gave her a backrub in the kitchen - she gets into it and asks, "Should I lay down?" I'm, like, "Sure, whatever". I start to dig in and she asks if she should take her top off. Again I'm like "Whatever" So I go to town and proceed to knock her socks offf (My massages are lethal!) I was driving her crazy with my hot breath on her neck while I rubbed her down. Her breathing got heavy, she started writhing and I knew what she wanted. So you know what I did? I got up and said, "Holy Sh** look at the time! I really gotta run. It's been great..Bye!" She got this crazed look on her face and was like "Oh no you don't!?" and straight up ATTACKED me! I have to say it was the first time in my life that I've ever been raped by a woman. And I owe at all to you! Will someone please give this man a Nobel Peace Prize???

A trillion Thank You's! You are the MACK of mackdaddies!

JJ from Brooklyn, NY [where people who tell dumb sheep jokes get beat down]

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, then.

You've given me some great things to comment on here.

Let's start with your "absolute 10 gorgeous Indian artist chick"...

I'd have to say that this is one of the biggest mistakes men make with women, actually.

And it's so EASILY avoided, if you just take time to THINK about it.

Imagine if YOU were a beautiful, talented, intelligent woman.

And further, imagine that you were approached by men all the time, and you had the opportunity to go out with all kinds of men.

What do you think the ONE, SINGLE thing is that happens to you most?

Right... men FALL IN LOVE with you.

And what do you when this happens all the time?

RIGHT... you start to think to yourself "What's the deal with all these guys who fall in love with me after only knowing me for 5 minutes? These guys must all be losers with no life. I mean, how could they have feelings for me so fast... unless they were WUSSIES who needed a new mamma?".

My point is that unusually beautiful women are so used to men falling all over themselves that they see it as PREDICTABLE and UNINTERESTING.

As a matter of fact, I have a personal theory that I'm working on... and I'm starting to think that when one "partner" becomes too clingy too fast it actually TRIGGERS some kind of natural response inside that says "Avoid this person, they aren't what you want".

I know that if ATTRACTION is present in the situation that this kind of behavior KILLS it DEAD.

If you meet an exceptional woman, you cannot turn into a clingy, love-struck, girl-man wuss-boy who is overcome with the urge to "share how he feels".

DON'T DO IT.

The only thing that will scare off a beautiful woman faster is telling her that you find her brother sexy... but not in a "gay" way.

Now, let's talk about your polka-dot-shoes-wearin' babe from the club...

You wove a wonderful story, and used Cocky & Funny perfectly with her. You created suspense, made her ask you what you were talking about, set her up... it was all great.

And great job walking away from her without saying "bye" and without trying to get her to go out with you.

This kind of thing shows a woman that you're not just another needy Wuss Bag who is just secretly trying to get her number... and that you have some self control.

Now, a lot of people who read your story will say "Yes, but he was being manipulative and tricky" by doing that... and not being "himself".

Well, those are the same people who don't understand women, and who have had no success with women.

The guys who are successful with women will read it and wink to themselves, because they GET IT.

When it comes to SEXUAL communication, things take on completely new meanings.

Instead of a woman being "upset" with you because you were being "manipulative" when you do something like this, you'll find instead that women will smile and say "Oh, you're GOOD". Or they'll get mad at you and hit you because they know that you GET IT, and they're attracted to you.

The bottom line is that this stuff is POWERFUL, it triggers ATTRACTION, and it communicates on a level that most men will NEVER understand.

Now, to address your massage comment...

I DO NOT think that giving a massage to a woman is a "Wuss" thing to do.

On the contrary, I do recommend it in some situations... like the one you used it in!

And you did EXACTLY the right thing, by being totally cool and laid-back about it... and then dialing things up slowly, and taking two steps forward and one step back... perfect.

There is a way to give a massage that DOES NOT say to the woman "I just couldn't wait to get my perverted hands on you... I haven't touched a woman in years".

And you now understand it.

It's obvious to me that you're starting to get this, but it's very important to remember that the concepts we're talking about here can be used in MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, and translated to all kinds of situations.

These principals change the way you THINK, as well as the way you act.

And, as you've found, they help you to reach inside and touch a woman in a way she's always wanted, and in a way that she responds to powerfully.

By the way, if you're reading this newsletter right now, and the things that this guy wrote about aren't exactly "clicking" for you... in other words, you just don't "get" why a woman would feel ATTRACTION to a man who behaves this way... you're not alone.

Most men just plain don't "get" women.

And I mean that in more ways than one.

I used to be one of those guys, actually.

Looking back, I realize now that I had NO IDEA what was going on in most of my past interactions with women, and that I have screwed up so many situations it's not even funny.

Well, it is actually pretty funny.

To understand women, you need a new MAP. You need a new way of SEEING THINGS. You need a different EDUCATION than the one mom gave you.

You see, women don't RESPOND the way they "should" to guys who are "nice" and who "court" them.

On the other hand, women DO respond with a powerful SEXUAL ATTRACTION to men who just plain aren't "good" for them or "good" TO them.

It's time that we as men started learning more about how women work, what they respond to, and how to TRIGGER those powerful feelings of ATTRACTION in the women that we desire.

I've spent the last several YEARS figuring this stuff out and then creating systems to teach other guys how to be more successful with women and dating.

I honestly believe that ANY man can increase his success with women... and that in most cases a guy can have DRAMATIC success by just UNDERSTANDING how women think and what they respond to better.

In other words, just "getting it" will create success by itself... no fancy techniques needed.

Of course, in my book and CD/DVD programs I teach literally HUNDREDS of great techniques for every possible situation... from approaching women to meeting women online»... and everything in between.

If you want to get the best education available in this area, and learn how to attract women without having to be "manipulative" or dishonest, then you owe it to yourself to check out my materials.

My Advanced Series is here:

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You can download my eBook here right now:

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I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.

P.S. If you'd like to send me a Success Story, Question, or Comment, follow these guidelines:

1) Keep it short and to the point. Two paragraphs max.

2) Tell me what's working for you before you ask your question. I appreciate all of the "Your stuff is great" and "I don't need to tell you how well your stuff works" comments, but the fact is that I DO need to hear all of the specifics... because this helps other guys to see what's working in different situations.

3) If you have a Success Story, write "Success Story" in the subject line of the email. I read these first.

4) At the end of the email, give me your initials and tell me where you're from.

5) Send it to me at:

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...don't just hit "reply" to this email. Thanks!

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