Written by
Formhandle, with help from many mASF members
Revised: Nov 28, 2006
Thanks for reading this :-) Really, I am serious, mASF will be a much better place if you take the time to read this. In fact, it's REQUIRED READING. It only takes 10-15 minutes to read this whole document.
NEWBIES AND FNGs ("FUCKING NEW GUYS") AND EVEN LONG-TIME LURKERS WHO DON'T READ THESE GUIDELINES RUN THE RISK OF CAUSING THEIR FIRST POST TO END UP IN THE READ-ONLY "MUSEUM OF THE READING IMPAIRED" BOARD, WHERE IT WILL REMAIN FOR ALL POSTERITY AND RIDICULED FOREVER. IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, WELL, THEN, YOU'D BETTER READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT BEFORE POSTING. IF YOU DON'T READ THIS BECAUSE OF ARROGANCE, LACK OR COURTESY, OR JUST GENERAL CLUELESSNESS, DON'T COME CRYING TO ME ABOUT YOUR STUPID-ASS FIRST POST(S).
This document will serve as a supplement to the main FAQ (which means, you have to read that, too). The primary purpose is to explain posting guidelines for the mASF forum, whether via the web interface, NNTP (newsreader) interface, via e-mail, or psychokinetic brainwaves. Remember, this is to make the forum an enjoyable place to be for everyone, so please do your best to cooperate with these guidelines. The original FAQ mainly covered issues with the unmoderated public USENet ASF (uASF) and etiquette (but still apply here), whereas these Posting Guidelines deal specifically with mASF since these guidelines can't be applied to uASF.
Although the web/mail interfaces don't support the alt.* naming hierarchy, for the purposes of simplicity, all boards/groups will be referred to by their alt.* naming hierarchy and the reader will be presumed to know what board/group is being referred to. For further reference, mASF shall sometimes be referred to as the "forum" and any particular discussion group within the forum shall be referred to as a "board".
If you're newly registered to the forum, as a courtesy to other readers, you're expected to read these guidelines - and the guidelines for each specific board at the top of the list of messages for that board. Registered members of the forum who flagrantly and repeatedly ignore these posting guidelines will risk having their login rights suspended. Please don't make me have to do that, OK? LOL. First time offenders will be warned, to provide them the opportunity to review these rules. I know people makes mistakes and I'm not going to enforce these rules to the point of banning over legit accidents. Repeat offenders who have been informed, however, run the risk of having their account disabled.
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alt.seduction.lifestyle
alt.seduction.fast.sex
alt.seduction.relationships
alt.seduction.fast.playettes
alt.seduction.fast.missions
alt.seduction.fast.reviews
alt.seduction.fast.off-topic
fastseduction.com.suggestions
posting reviews
(products, workshops, seminars, etc.)
Q: "I posted something recently, but now it's gone. Did that censoring bastard Formhandle delete it?"
A: Chances are, no, he probably MOVED it to the Off Topic board if it was off topic OR he MOVED it to another board if it was more appropriate for that board. He's still a bastard, though, isn't he? :-) Please don't make a post on any forum except Off Topic asking where your post went.
Q: "I use the web interface and I can't figure out how to filter certain people's posts out. How do I do that?"
A: At this time, such a feature is not possible. If something like that is extremely important to you, consider browsing the forum using a newsreader which can support it. Note that accessing the forum with a newsreader will require you to register an account. Note that the forum has had an upgrade applied which allows you to see who started a particular thread before you click on it, so you can use that as a time-saver.
Q: "I accidentally posted something I didn't want to. Can you please delete it for me?"
A: While logged in to the web interface, you have the ability to edit and delete your own posts. Note that "cancel" functions in newsreader software is not compatible with the NNTP interface of the forum, you must use the web interface to edit or delete your own posts.
Q: "I want to change my e-mail address, but the forum won't let me. How can I change my e-mail address?"
A: By reading & following the instructions described in the Profile Settings section while you are logged in (click "more..." then click "Profile Settings"). You can update your own mail address. Don't mail the moderator to change your address unless the current process in place does not work for you.
Q: "When I'm browsing the forum as a Guest, the message list on the left changes to an unexpected state when I click on it, making it difficult to browse messages. How can I fix this?"
A: Member logins are tracked using cookies. The server stores browse state of members based on their cookie. The Guest login is, effectively, a "shared" cookie/login so when many people are browsing the forum under the Guest account at the same time, the server will occasionally get confused as to which browse state belongs to which browser. The way to fix this is to register for an account and log in using your own non-shared account. You'll also be able to post using that account and, although an e-mail address is required to create an account, you edit your profile to hide your e-mail address from public view.
Q: "I think what you guys talk about is wrong and bad for society. Someone needs to put you guys in your place or warn you of all the risks."
A: Go preach somewhere else. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Q: "I clicked on the 'flag this post' link and marked a post as spam/troll/etc but nothing happened."
A: The flagging system is a community effort and requires multiple people flagging a post to make any impact on that post. Also, flags from long-time members are weighted heavier than newer members as well as other stats which influence weighting. However, every flag does count a measureable amount so if you see something you don't like (or something you really like) then please flag it. Flagging does not interrupt your browsing and will only help improve the overall quality of content the forum.
Q: "One of my posts/threads was flagged with 'NEWBTARD' or 'READING IMPAIRED', etc. Why?"
A: Because the post either clearly and blatantly violated a forum guideline (all of which are outlined on this page) or your post seriously annoyed a large number of forum users. As to why, the way to figure it out is to use and apply rational and critical thinking. Don't post on the Off-Topic board asking about it, that is annoying.
Q: "I forgot my login info, how do I recover it?"
A: If you forgot your password, you can have it mailed to you by the system from this page:
http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?action=24&ForgotPwd=yes
If you forgot your username or believe you have multiple accounts and forgot the details to them, you can try this page:
In order to properly and fairly enforce the guidelines below, there are a few things which apply forum-wide. These guidelines are a supplement, in much greater detail, the main forum Charter which can easily be found at the top of the message list.
- ANYTHING to do with hotornot site (or clone) or sites ABOUT hotornot (or clone). The only allowance will be quoting your own personal hotornot rating, as that might be relevant to the discussion of your experience(s).
- Discussions of online dating stuff without any actual discussions of how to use those sites (FOR REAL) to get anywhere. If I see any more discussions of personals sites which do not lead to useful discussion of how to utilize those sites for actual outcomes (meetings, lays), I'm going to delete the entire damn threads.
- Discussions of any video porn sites which claim to be legit pick-ups done with secret video cameras or whatever. It's all bullshit. I see crap like that being discussed here as if it was legit PU (or asking if it's legit PU) then I will delete those posts without mercy. That crap doesn't even belong in off-topic.
- Discussions of "The Rules" book. Anyone who has taken any time to search the archives will find that the topic has been "beaten to death" as finalD put it. DAFS!
The purpose of the Beginners board is to be a place for the truly newbie and beginner questions and to help free up the General board from the types of topics that newbies tend to post on or ask about. This does not mean it becomes OK to ask questions that are already answered in the FAQ or answered easily by doing a search on the forum, archives, or site in general.
Not just for newbies, long-time members of mASF are ALSO welcome to post in the Beginners board if they have a comment, question, or interest in discussing something within the context of beginner topics.
For the beginner, here are some common helpful resources to get you started and help answer many of your common questions, by order of very basic & simple to more advanced:
The Acronyms: http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml
The FAQ: http://www.fastseduction.com/asf-faq.shtml (All Common Newbie Questions Answered)
Recurring Newbie Topics: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/fswiki.cgi?Recurring_Newbie_MASF_Topics
The "You Are New" Section: http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/ (Step-by-Step for Newbies)
The Player Guide: http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/ (The Main & Most-Referenced Original Guide)
The FS Wiki: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/fswiki.cgi (Community Collaborative)
The PUA Archives: http://www.fastseduction.com/archives/ (PDF files of well-known PUAs)
The Archive Search: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi (Search for Older/Archived Posts)Also don't forget there is a search feature on THIS forum as well as the ability to find posts by particular people, current top discussion threads, etc.
Subject titling guidelines:
Please pick an appropriate (and descriptive) subject based on the content of your post... to give people an idea of what the post might contain. An example of bad subject lines would be "Important: Read this!" or "Please help!" or "Try this out". If your post refers to a specific concept that many people on the board are likely to be aware of, it might help to use the acronym for that concept, if any, at the beginning of the subject line. For example: "SP: Leading to *close" or "CB tactics revisited"...
Before posting to the General board, realize there are more specific boards which might be more appropriate for your post (for example, the Sex board or Reviews board). You are expected to read the entire Posting Guidelines before posting, to understand what types of posts belong where.
The purpose of the General board is to essentially replace uASF (the public unmoderated alt.seduction.fast newsgroup) minus the trolls, flames, newsloons, spam, off-topic posts, and basic FAQ questions which have been answered hundreds of times already. Any discussion about pick-up and seduction (which actually has content like a discussion topic or question) is welcome on this board as long as it follows the spirit of the fastseduction.com web site. If you're sure your message is on-topic (and does not more appropriately belong on another more specific board on the forum) but you're not sure which board it belongs, then it's probably OK to put it in General. If it's off topic, post it in Off-Topic (but please read the guidelines for Off-Topic, too, since off-topic does not mean spam or random crap posts are OK). Since people seem to be occasionally confused about this, let's say you want to post a review of a product and feel that it's on-topic to the General board. Actually, it is not because it is specifically a product review and would belong in the Reviews board. If your post does not more appropriately fit in one of the more specific boards AND it is on-topic AND it has content (a legit question, answer, comment, or discussion about pick-up or seduction) then it can go in General.
Posts about the community which contain no real PU or seduction related content or question should go in Off-Topic. That means, if you're looking for a wing and already tried contacting some through P.A.I.R. (but for some reason that didn't work out) and want to get the attention of someone in your area, make the request in Off-Topic. That means questions about other web sites, mailing lists, gatherings, etc., go in Off-Topic. Or, if you just want a general opinion of something only remotely related to PU or seduction, post it in Off-Topic.
Subject titling guidelines:
Please pick an appropriate (and descriptive) subject based on the content of your post... to give people an idea of what the post might contain. An example of bad subject lines would be "Important: Read this!" or "Please help!" or "Try this out". If your post refers to a specific concept that many people on the board are likely to be aware of, it might help to use the acronym for that concept, if any, at the beginning of the subject line. For example: "SP: Leading to *close" or "CB tactics revisited"...
Only field-tested techniques go in here. That means you (or someone you've witnessed firsthand) should have used the tactic or technique at least twice successfully.
Do NOT post something like "Hey guys, I thought of an idea for PU... blah blah... what do you think?" FIELD TEST IT at least twice yourself and, if it works, THEN you can post about it. Same goes for posting this kind of stuff anywhere else on the forum. Nobody is here to be your guinea pig, if you have an idea - TRY IT yourself first. The only exceptions to this will be situations where you've already engaged a chick using a specific tactic or technique (not just a general situation) and are in the midst of figuring something out or ran into glitches when trying something out and want some help figuring out what you might be doing wrong. And in THAT case, the post most likely belongs in the Field Reports board if it involves more than a minor slice of your overall situation.
No general questions/comments about a general PU situation. Post that stuff in General. ALL posts in the T/T board must be either sharing a new field-tested tactic/technique, discussing a field-tested tactic/technique that's been shared in the past, or asking questions about a tactic/technique that you're having an issue with in-field (not an issue understanding, but of making use of in-field).
What is a tactic / technique? Basically anything of the following that isn't an entire method: routines, gimmicks, lines, attitudes, presentation, insights, PU helpers, seduction tricks, verbal games, mind games, physical games, GM jokes, wing tactics, angles for social proof, micro-methods, etc. If it takes over 5 paragraphs to describe and involves PU from start-to-finish then it's an "entire method" in which case contact me (Formhandle) and I'll set up a page for it in the Method section of the site (presuming it can be applied by many guys without major modification). Or, post it in Advanced.
If you reasonably believe that the tactic / technique is something that only veterans or GPUAs will either understand or make use of, post it in Advanced.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good (and descriptive) subject lines.
Subject titling and posting guidelines:
Quite a few :-)
This board tends to have a wide range of posting levels and types of field experiences, and so will be the most strict in terms of subject titling and posting guidelines.
Since this board is specifically for field reports, (just as Advanced is specifically for the discussion of advanced topics), it makes no sense for guys to post anything other than stuff related to field reports in here.
Useful and interesting replies to any post that meet the following criteria are on-topic, unless otherwise stated.
It's a good idea to use descriptive subject lines.
All new reports (starting of a new discussion thread) should have their subject lines titled in the following fashion:
XX: Topic SubjectWhere "XX" represents the type of report (read below for more info). That's XX, COLON, SPACE, SUBJECT.
If your report is not properly labeled in this fashion, it will automatically be marked as mis-labeled and will not display your actual subject until you fix the issue.
Specifically, the following are legit report types:
OR: Outing Report SubjectAn OR is talking about generally hanging out, things that happened, new tactics, techniques, or theories tried. ORs are mostly about the learning process and getting out there to try new stuff.
FR: Field Report SubjectA FR is like an OR except that it resulted in actual outcomes with chicks (successful or otherwise), which would be a long interaction with 1 or a few chicks, follow ups, contact closes, etc.
FR+: Field Report+ SubjectA FR+ is a FR which lead to an extraction and something physical (tongue down, making out, generally macking on chicks, in addition to any contact closing if applicable) but did not lead to full isolation or a lay (yet).
FR++: Field Report++ SubjectA FR++ is a FR which lead to an isolation of any kind and ALMOST resulted in a lay. Meaning, an "Almost Lay Report" but no lay due to ASD or LMR that, for one reason or another, the poster could not get beyond OR because of some logistical problem that could not be worked around.
LR: Lay Report SubjectA LR is a Lay Report (anything from a blow job all the way to a full f close).
You can also fo LR+ and LR++ for extended LRs or LRx2, LRx3, etc to represent multiple Lay Reports in a single post or Lay Reports with multiple girls.
Some guys have occasionally made posts that started with "FU" or "Fuckup", meaning "Fuckup Report", but from now on such titling will be avoided except in extreme circumstances where there was a total royal fuckup of a situation (whether it be a FR or FR++).
For LRs involving more than one chick, "LR+" will suffice. :-)
If a report is in regards to a BOOTCAMP assignment, the same subject titling conventions apply as other posts, but it would be helpful to prepend the titling with [BC]. For example:
[BC]FR: Bootcamp Field Report SubjectThere's NO NEED to put a date in the subject line, the posts are already dated. Also, there's no need to spell out "Field Report" or "Lay Report" in the subject line, use the extra space for a more descriptive subject.
For reports that aren't regarding a reasonably full PU scenario (at least 3 out of the 4 of FMAC), then it's an OR. In any case, the guy should basically be describing what he did as clearly as possible and asking for comments on what he could have done better or describing an interesting thing he discovered in the field. And, I ask that people please refrain from posting useless one-line follow-ups like "cool report" unless they can add at least some useful commentary (even 1-2 sentences is enough). Criticisms without constructive suggestions will also be frowned upon.
Outside of bootcamp fulfillment reports, reports that simply include a description of some random PUs with no significant goals or discoveries or lays aren't very useful other than to say "Hey, I went out and did PU." So did 12,000 other guys, but they managed to refrain from posting except when they have something interesting to talk about. We're not trying to social proof each other here, that is really lame. Please talk about your goals, discoveries, outcomes, etc.
For standard field reports, it would be helpful to have clear descriptions of what happened, not just in words but in body language, kino, etc. Also, please avoid posting questions like "HBchick challenged me with a shit test... how should I have responded to it? What should I do now with her?" without ALSO telling us how you responded to the HB at that time and how she then subsequently responded. You guys know what I'm talking about. Those kind of posts are so annoying because someone is always forced to asked what your & her responses were before continuing the discussion constructively. Save us all some time and describe what happened in the situation after the supposed shit test.
For lay reports, it would be VERY helpful to know as much as possible about the whole PU/seduction from start-to-finish. If you've previously posted a FR on the PU of the chick, then there's no need to re-post the text of it, just link to the previous FR. HOWEVER, point to links in the archive (if your post made it in there), not to links in the live forum. That's because those links expire after a couple months and also aren't very useful to people not logged into the forum (remember, some people will find these reports when searching the ASF archive section). Finally, the structure of such lay reports should be reasonably descriptive or many guys won't pick up the useful aspects of how you structured getting the lay versus just being at the right place at the right time. Although I won't force people to use a specific reporting structure, MANY guys have found the structure that TokyoPUA & I have used as a powerful learning tool (for both the reader and poster). For example of such reports, here are some from the archive:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=10391770283184
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=103917813838288
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=103917820440204
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=104081055251180
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=104685765966051
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=105108771375616
Oh, BTW, just 'cuz reading this STILL cracks me up to this day (I think these reports are GREAT & detailed, I really like them):
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=103960103249290
LOL, and while I'm at it, I think twentysix should be a comedy writer:
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=4&mn=104202035054199BTW, I am not in any way making fun of twentysix's posts, I applaud him and think they are great examples of willingness to both share experiences & entertain through writing.
Commentary in regards to old posts (with proper quoting and linking in the post) is also on-topic, and those should be titled:CP: Commentary Post Subject or RP: Re-Post Commentary SubjectPosts primarily pointing to other resources related to field reports is OK (i.e. links to MP3's with brief description of what the MP3 files are in regards to, which report, background, etc.), but please indicate that's what you're pointing to in the subject line and also, if appropriate, label the subject as described above depending on the context of the files.
If the post includes new advice (stuff that hasn't been talked about on uASF/mASF/TFM) outside of the details of the actual field part of the report, the poster MUST state whether the advice has been field-tested, unless of course that's already apparent in some way. Also, if a post from a new guy contains a lot of authoritative advice surrounding the report, the poster should (voluntarily) indicate somewhere in the post what their current PUA level is which can be estimated by referring to:
http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/9levels.shtml
In regards to posts about online PUs (this is relevant to all boards):
It seems there are a couple of philosophies here in regards to "online" PU (Internet). One side considers online PU worthwhile, depending on the circumstance. The other side thinks online PU is not worth the effort at all. A few people swear by it. Of the guys who swear by it, I'd like to see more constructive (results-oriented) uses of it :-)
Anyway, whataver anyone's beliefs, here's how we can keep things sane...
1. Please don't post the logs of your online PUs unless it lead to: getting her number (and the # was real), or meeting her IRL. If you met her IRL and the chat is your continuation of your interactions with her online, not many people are going to be interested in this UNLESS the chat directly lead to you getting laid. And, even in that case, ONLY post the relevant parts of the chat, if you must. Almost nobody around here cares to read:
You: Hey Her: Hi You: How's it goin girl Her: OK You: Cool Her: Yeah2. If you're a newly registered (less than 1 month) on this forum, you are NOT allowed to post logs of your online "PUs" under any condition. I don't want to see it. If it's really useful, you can wait a month before posting about it. But take the time to understand mASF first... then maybe you will comprehend the difference between useful and useless posts. It's easy for anyone to discern the date of your initial registration, and I will consider it perfectly acceptable for someone to e-mail me regarding the breaking of this rule by anyone.
3. For the purpose of fairness and clarity, e-mail will not be considered online PU unless you have yet to meet the chick IRL, have e-mailed her back & forth a few times, and have spent the entirety of your interactions with her through just e-mail or chat, not attempting transition to a meeting IRL, or constantly failing in your attempts to do so. So, guys who want to ask about e-mail interactions with chicks are free to do so, as long you've already met the chick IRL, have gotten her to agree to that, or your question isn't blatantly dumb or not already answered in the FAQ somehow.
4. Online personals services are sometimes useful to a few people. However, unless you've got a great tactic you'd like to share about how to optimize the use of these services for successful PUs (getting IRL meetings and, at least occasionally, lays), we don't want to hear about it.
It's not that I, or others, are necessarily against all forms of online PU, it's just that we're primarily only interested in USEFUL discussion of it. Anything other than that is just a cluttering of the forum, and an annoyance to MANY regulars... and hard to filter out.
People have to be registered on mASF for at least 30 days before posting to Advanced. Also, you must have contributed posts at least a few times to other boards to help others understand who you are and what you know. People need to be able to differentiate quality posters from random people who show up with no "credentials" whatsoever.
The Advanced board is for guys to be able to discuss truly advanced stuff or discuss general stuff in an advanced way (for real, not just waxing philosophic on the meaning of "nexting" or how to best "be yourself"). This board is for guys to look deeper into current and new concepts and to basically figure out the inner workings of things. If you're not sure what an advanced topic is, peruse 10-15 recent & random threads on this board to get a better idea.
The Advanced board is not for newbies to ask for advice on basic PU. I've heard the following excuse too many times: "Well, I thought I'd get a better answer here since most of the Advanced guys probably read this board more often." That's lame.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good subject lines.
People have to be registered on mASF for at least 30 days before posting to Lifestyle. Also, you must have have contributed at least one decent LR post (not a brag report but an actual report) at least once on the Field Reports board, where the pickup/seduction leading to the lay is outlined in ASF terminology/vocabulary. Finally, posts must be about yourself (not someone else), about lifestyle improvements (not "How do I get better abs?", "Which supplements should I take?", "What condoms are best", or "Should I consider Viagra?" or looking for answers to BASIC questions), concrete examples of lifestyle techniques conducive to PU, about attracting specific types of girls, and about how to calibrate seduction (in a "long game" sense) to specific women you have some sort of ongoing relationship with.
NOTE: The Lifestyle board is NOT a relationship board. Do not post about your specific relationships (ongoing sexual), issues or questions. Put such posts in the Relationships board. If your post is about a specific ongoing sexual relationship or already ongoing sexual relationships in general with women, post it in the Relationships board. If it's still unclear to you whether your post would belong in the Lifestyle board, DO NOT post it and state "I don't know if this post belongs here, but..." Instead, contact one of the moderators of the Lifestyle board and ask them. If you don't know who the moderators of the Lifestyle board are then chances are you have not even bothered to lurk the board and probably in that case should not post to the board until you figure this out.
NOTE: The Lifestyle board is NOT a place to discuss one-itis situation at all. Such posts are off-topic everywhere else on the forum, so they would be off-topic in Lifestyle as well.
NOTE: The Lifestyle board is NOT a place to talk about theory or "feeling better about yourself" ideas or "how to be more alpha".
The Lifestyle board is for guys to be able to discuss truly big picture lifestyle stuff as it relates to improving your success with women. For example, strategies for living arrangements, locations and environments to enhance opportunities, social circle improvement. Note one-liner ideas or tips but actual full-blown strategies and discussions. Some about lifestyle discussions obviously will cover things like health, nutrition, physique, clothes, etc, but these discussions should be wider-range than just one-liner "tips". Also try to keep similar discussions in the same thread. We don't need 5 threads in one week on workout improvements, that causes other posts which are more concretely on-topic to get buried sooner.
The Lifestyle board is not for newbies to ask for advice on basic PU. I've heard the following excuse too many times: "Well, I thought I'd get a better answer here since most of the lifestyle-centric guys probably read this board more often." That's lame.
The Lifestyle board has moderators assigned which means they will be managing the content on the board to ensure it's productive and posts & threads remain on-topic. The admin has authorized the moderators to edit or delete posts as needed so if your post gets deleted then chances are you did not read these Posting Guidelines.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good subject lines.
The Sex board is for topics related ONLY to sex. No pick-up or seduction material belongs here, just sex and pleasuring chicks physically.
What is OFF-TOPIC to the Sex board is:
- Anything about any erection issues (getting them, keeping them, worried about them, etc). This topic has been DONE TO DEATH and anyone that brings it up as if it's something new will have their mASF account immediately revoked. See a doctor or sex therapist. If it's because of condoms or some other external thing you KNOW to be the cause then what do you expect people to reply to you with? Use your head (your other one).
- Masturbation (unless the context is MUTUAL masturbation between you and at least 1 girl in the same room at the same time).
- Asking about sex when you've never had sex before (meaning, you're a virgin). Use the rest of the forum to GET YOU LAID and THEN you may ask sex-specific questions on the Sex board.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good (and descriptive) subject lines.
This board has yet to be created. However, when it's available, the following guidelines will apply.
The Relationships board is for the discussion of ongoing interactions with women. ONS is not ongoing :-) Also, ongoing without sex is also not exactly productive... So, once you've had sex with a chick and have established something beyond ONS, you can use the Relationships board to discuss how to best maintain your relationship(s) the way you want. This might also mean how to best end a relationship to suit your needs. Depending on the kind of relationship you're looking to discuss, please follow the following titling guidelines for subject lines (prepend the following acronyms + colon depending on the best match):
STR: Short Term Relationship FB: Fuck Buddy LTR: Long Term Relationship GF: Girlfriend (monogamous) MLTR: (true) Multiple LTRs MLTR^2: (true) Multiple LTRs w/ bisexual chick(s)ONS stuff will be Off-Topic to this board unless the ONS turned into more than that or the guy wants ideas on how to turn it into more than that. In that case, the post should be prepended with:
ONS+ help: ONS SubjectBefore getting too deep into MLTR discussion, please be sure what you're posting about is an actual MLTR and not just cheating on your "monogamous" GF behind her back. There are far too many guys referring to their GF or the chicks they cheat on her with as their "primary" MLTR and a few guys who refer to their sole LTR as an MLTR.
Another thing, if you have a QUESTION about STR, FB, LTR, MLTR, etc. and looking for advice from guys who have that experience, then this board is also for you. Don't ask ONS, pre-sex, or general PU questions here.
A final note to guys who have found FastSeduction.com, the Player Guide, mASF, etc., and used all that material to get yourself into a LTR: It's VERY tempting to drop the ongoing effort to maintain what it is that got you into the relationship in the first place, and to stop applying those principles. However, if you take that attitude then you will effectively become LAZY and eventually the LTR will slip out of your hands and you'll be back to square one. A relationship is not contradictory to seduction. You need to continually maintain and seduce in order to have a good and fulfilling relationship. Weather you want to fuck around, have a harem, or you want to find and get the love of your life, seduction is a must, in finding, getting and and maintaining that relationship.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good (and descriptive) subject lines.
The Playettes board is for the female members of mASF, if any, to discuss the other side of the PU equation: theirs. As long as the discussions fit within the spirit of the fastseduction.com web site, women are welcome to post here. That could mean talking about being PU'd, PUing men from a female perspective, PUing other chicks (if you're bi-sexual), or any other topic within the scope of PU or seduction as it relates to women.
Note to men: This board does not exist for you to dump on women who chose to post in it. If you don't agree with something, then just ignore it. If you think something a chick posts about completely goes against common understanding from the materials throughout the site and mASF, then just make a commentary note for other guys to be aware of that and leave it at that. Don't start vitriolic debates over this stuff, it's a waste of time. Also, unless a post from a woman asks for feedback from men, men are NOT allowed to reply even if they think they have some good advice to give. Let the women talk with each other about what actually works for them, not what we guys think will work for them.
NO threads are to be started by guys in this board.
Guys, please don't get involved in threads started by chicks unless you're asked for feedback.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good (and descriptive) subject lines.
The Missions board was started for one purpose and sort of resulted in another. What it has essentially transformed into is sort of an ongoing log for any member of mASF who wants to publicly:
1. Provide a bio, where he's at in his game, what his goals are
2. Define past experiences and establish that as material he can use in PU, and also share this with others to be used in the same way.
3. Establish what he needs to get beyond and what his gameplan is to get that stuff taken care of.
4. Act as an online journal, of sorts, as he progresses.
Guys who start a thread for themselves should reply to their own thread for updates (not creating a new thread - this helps keep things organized for everyone, including the guy who "owns" the thread).
Subject titling guidelines:
It's been generally accepted that new threads on the Missions board start with the username of the person creating the thread, as the thread will undoubtedly be about him and his missions, goals, personal tactic ideas, past history, bio, etc.
See the "posting reviews" section below.
All Off-Topic posts go on this board. HOWEVER, keep in mind that there is off-topic and there is WAAAY off-topic. If your post isn't even remotely related to PU or will be of actual interest to forum members, do not post it. Also, if it is spam or trolling or some other form of forum abuse then that's obviously not allowed (see the FAQ). Important note about posting links: Unless your link is an obvious news story, if you are posting a link to the root of a domain, you MUST disclaim that you're not affiliated with that web site. Non-disclaimed unsolicited self-promotion in the form of links/URLs in a post is NOT allowed on mASF at all, especially if the site you're pointing to is commercial in nature. If you are concerned about a post you are about to make, CHECK WITH THE MODERATOR FIRST. Many people make the mistake of posting something which would clearly be commercial self-promotion without checking with the moderator first and become upset when their posts are removed which makes no sense because it is no different than being welcome into somebody's house for the purpose of conversations with other guests and later deciding to stick a billboard on that person's front lawn without permission.
Some subjects that might SEEM like they might be OK in Off-Topic but really aren't and just clutter the board: Roommate requests, selling your PU products (via eBay, auction, whatever), Lair/blog announcements, or references to file-sharing networks. mASF is NOT a classified ad site and that does not mean such stuff would belong on the Off-Topic board. If you need to fill a job, looking for non-PU related services, or want to start a thread on something totally unrelated to PU, there are plenty of other web sites in which those topics would be applicable - they don't belong on mASF at all. Anyone who disregards this and posts that stuff anyway WILL have their account disabled without mercy. There is no excuse for posting into the forum without first reading these Posting Guidelines. The reason Lairs and blog announcements aren't wanted in Off-Topic is A) one can't differentiate between spam and a Lair until one visits the site (and these days it seems some Lairs are formed/managed as influence to promote workshops for commercial businesses) and B) if everyone posted every time they started a blog or posted to their blog then the Off-Topic board would get flooded with so much of that it would overwhelm other topics.
Before submitting a new post, please do a quick check/scan to see if the same topic/subject has been brought up on the board already in the past few days. If so, contribute your post in THAT pre-existing thread as this will help minimize board clutter. In other boards, this is merely a request - but in Off-Topic it is a REQUIREMENT.
Subject titling guidelines:
Nothing specific, just pick good (and descriptive) subject lines.
The Suggestions board has been deprecated as there are enough suggestions submitted to take 10 years to deploy. Everything in the old suggestions board is now Formhandle's "to do" list. If you have any new suggestions, please mail Formhandle directly (please don't post suggestions on the forum).
1. ALL product reviews go in the Reviews board. Reviews of commercial products and questions about commercial products (except int he case of questions about specific techniques or ideas related to a product) are considered off topic except within the Reviews board. Reviews of "free" events/resources that cater to promoting commercial products are also off topic everywhere except within the Reviews board. Finally, posts inciting people to check out specific reviews of products in the Reviews section (whether a link is provided or not) will be considered spam. People on mASF have free will and intelligent enough to peruse the Reviews board on their own, they don't need encouragement from product owners or their associates to do so.
Beyond all that, posts in the Reviews board will require moderator/administrator approval before they appear. That means posts don't automatically show up as visible to other members until they are approved by a moderator or administrator. Also, if a post which has been previously approved is edited and re-submitted, it will lose it's approved status and require re-approval to appear on the board (this is to discourage tampering with approved posts). Posts are moderated for objective informational purposes, not commercial purposes - to filter out potential spam and to inform posters what type of information is acceptable and sought after in reviews.
2. If you are requesting info on a product
Submit the post to the Reviews board It doesn't belong anywhere else. Keep it short BUT provide information at the beginning of your post about where you are in the PU game, why you're asking about the product. If the only information about the product is 1-2 sentences and/or a promotional web site with pretty much no information on the product other than how to buy it or whether people think it might be good, then DO NOT include a link to the web site AT ALL and also reconsider whether you should submit the post in the first place. mASF is not a free advertising forum and such a post would be the equivalent of spam. Re-read this section ("If you are requesting info on a product") and try to follow the guidelines when submitting your product-related question. Also, if you have only a few posts registered on mASF and/or barely been registered a few days, don't expect your question to show up too quickly - the moderator will likely contact you via mail to ensure the post is valid and not potential spam.
3. If you are posting a review of a product
At the top of your post, indicate when you first registered an account on mASF and roughly how many other contributions you've made on the forum before posting the review. If you are receiving any credit for the review (money, discount, special favors), disclaim it at the top. Disclaim any connections you might have with the owner(s) of the product/service beyond personal association (acquaintance or friend). Do not include e-mail addresses or web site URLs in your review at all before first getting an OK from the forum administrator (this includes URLs in the "signature" portion of posts). Also, there is a DISTINCT difference between a testimonial/infomercial and actually providing an informational review. Please do not just repeat the contents/outline of the ebook, CD, DVD, tapes, or whatever and think that's a review. A review must have some form of commentary on it's usefulness to your interests, how well of a job it did in that regard, and how you feel it could be better (if at all) or why you didn't like it (if at all).
If you've NEVER posted to mASF before, then you are not allowed to post a review. If you've been a member of mASF for less than 30 days, then you are not allowed to post a review. If you have been a member for of mASF for less than 15 days then you're not allowed to post at all, even as a reply to another post, in the Review board.
Product names can be used but no URLs or direct pointers to products are allowed without permission of the board moderator.
4. If you are posting a review of a workshop/seminar
At the top of your post, indicate when you first registered an account on mASF and roughly how many other contributions you've made on the forum before posting the review. If you are receiving any credit for the review (money, discount, special favors), disclaim it at the top. Disclaim any connections you might have with the owner(s) of the product/service beyond personal association (acquaintance or friend). Do not include e-mail addresses or web site URLs in your review at all before first getting an OK from the forum administrator (this includes URLs in the "signature" portion of posts). Also, there is a DISTINCT difference between a testimonial/infomercial and actually providing an informational review. Please do not just repeat the outline of the seminar or workshop and think that's a review. A review must have some form of commentary on it's usefulness to your interests, how well of a job it did in that regard, and how you feel it could be better (if at all) or why you didn't like it (if at all).
Wait at least 1 week before posting a review of a workshop/seminar that you took. Also, if you are unable or unwilling to post a follow-up post within 1 month of taking part in your reviewed workshop/seminar, don't post the review in the first place. The members of the forum deserve to know whether the workshop helped you down the line or whether your original review was just post-euphoria of meeting & hanging out with prominent personalities. Anything less might as well be promotional spam.
If you took a seminar/workshop and had a BAD experience, post about it, with the same guidelines as above. If 12 people take part in a workshop and only 1 person had a positive experience, yet that person was the only one who posted a review, that gives a distorted view of reality, so do your part to keep things objective by sharing your negative as well as positive experiences. If you are hesitant to post a negative review for fear of being "outcast" by people in the community, e-mail the moderators or forum admin and your review can be relayed with an anonymous account.
If you've NEVER posted to mASF before, then you are not allowed to post a review. If you've been a member of mASF for less than 30 days, then you are not allowed to post a review. If you have been a member for of mASF for less than 15 days then you're not allowed to post at all, even as a reply to another post, in the Review board.
Product names can be used but no URLs or direct pointers to products are allowed without permission of the board moderator.
5. If you are posting a reply to a review or product question.
If you are associated with the business that owns the product being discussed, PLEASE do not use your reply as an opportunity for promotion. Simply answer the question being asked if it's appropriate for you to do so without plugging current or future products or events. Also, if you are associated with a business, using the review board as a promotional vehicle (disproportionately large number of replies to multiple threads over a short period of time), you will be considered to be using the board solely for promotion and your posts will no longer be approved.
If you have been a member for of mASF for less than 15 days then you're not allowed to post at all, even as a reply to another post, in the Review board.
6. Subject titling guidelines:
The subject line should begin with "Review: Name of product" unless it's a request for info on a product - in that case, the subject line should begin with "Product Q: Name of product". Commentary about products in general (not a review or question but just a general commentary or thoughts on commercial stuff) should begin with "Comment: Name of product".
7. Miscellaneous:
If you're unsure of something in regards to posting a review or asking about a product on mASF, then e-mail one of the moderators or the forum admin before posting.