mASF post by "Dave Riker"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, April 4, 2002

In article <f72tbuoqokpf005ahace16c1v3shrshloi@4ax.com>,
Darius <worknman@despammed.com> wrote:

>
>I know a lot of people bash Ross and his products and I figure it's
>because either:
>
>a) They don't like Ross, and therefore discourage people from buying
>his products
>b) They've tried the stuff and it doesn't work
>c) They think his methods are deceptive or immoral

Ross stuff works, it is superior to other techniques, and many guys are
jealous about that ...... have competitive products .... or their Egos get
in the way, and when Ross does not answer EVERY question from EVERY person
onthe planet - they call him a dick.

The best thing to do - judge for yourself.

The sad fact of the matter is that most of the best conversations regarding
picking up women do NOT happen on here. Severela good resorces include:



Fastseduction 101 web page by Formhandle

Good resource althouth there is a "claim" made by that groiup that they are
now the "offoiial" page or whatever. LOL Well, anyone can stand up and SAY
"I am in charge here" or whatever. Its a good resource, the moderated forum
is good, but no one ever deemed it "official". That one point aside, it IS a
good resource




Cliff List's - A guy named Cliff runs a private subscrption list - go to :

http://www.geocities.com/cliff604/CliffsList.html

for info. This is a great list, Cliff is a great guy.




Dave DeAngelo's Page and Book:

doubleyourdating.com

Dave is good at what he does and if you sign up to his email list he sends
out a newsletter like 1-2 times a week. He also has a great book and is
starting to do seminars.



Ross Jeffries

speed-seduction.com

This is where Ross info is. Also he has a email list for customers in good
standing, info can be found at:

http://www.seduction.com/mailman/listinfo/ss

Ross obvioulsty gets a lot of people complianing, becuase frankly when it
coms to being around a while, having the most customers, being the most
successful, he is at the top of the heap. Of COURSE this draws criticism and
bitching from people, thats just the way it is.






Anyway, there is some info to help you.

No doubt this post will be followed up by whiners and nay-sayers,
complaining about Ross, me, whatever, I would urge you to read read r ead as
muh as you can on the various web sites, and judge for yourself.

Good Luck.

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