mASF post by "burning_chrome"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2005

I've noticed a lot of posts on this board that seem to paint women as creatures
that need to be won and will lose interest forever if you even fuck up once.
But I don't think that it works like that.

First off, I believe that I have seen women use take-aways, neg hits, eliciting
values, using suggestive conversation, suggesting competition, trying not to
seem to available, social proofing, almost everything that is suggested on this
site short of patterning. The girl I am currently dating didn't return an
email, but flirted with me when I saw her later out later on. I asked her out,
she took her sweet time responding back. I guess there are a lot of ways to
look at this, but I think she was trying to give herself value by not seeming
too available, but still letting me know that their was hope. I simply played
it cool and got the woman. Here is something to think about: Imagine if you
where performing take-aways or neg hits on a HB9 and she kept calling you
asking you if you still liked her and found her attractive. You would probably
still fuck her, but you would probably lose all respect for her. So really it
isn't that hard to understand that you got to play it cool when a woman doesn't
return calls or is in any other ways sending mixed messages. Of course you got
to figure out when she is simply wasting your time too.

There is a lot of conversation here about hot women not really knowing that
they are hot. This is something that I have noticed about myself and only
recently gotten out of. I have a lot to offer the opposite sex, but sometimes
I tend to only look at my last dealings with a woman, instead of the big
picture. So if a woman fucks with me a little bit I get all insecure and think
that I am nothing. If you notice this in yourself, first take control of it,
and then realize that hot women probably suffer from this as well (the basis
for neg hits). Look at the big picture to more accurately determine your own
attractiveness level.