mASF post by "Phase2"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, July 7, 2005

> Politics aside, and honest question here, I'd be curious to hear an answer
> to
> this as well. I've played around with the "I like you and want to meet
> you"
> opener," but found that I preferred other direct openers because I feel
> weird
> saying that I like her before I met her.

You're applying logical analysis to a statement, which isn't something girls
do at the best of times and even less during a conversation. The number of
girls who'll say; "How can you like me? You don't even know me" is in the
ballpark of the number who'll say "Why are you asking for my opinion? You
don't even know me". Logically, most indirect openers make no sense in a
club because it's a high energy environment and people are there to have fun
so personally I feel weird wandering around asking "who lies more.." like
I'm doing some survey.

I feel when talking about a direct approach, the term "opener" can be
misleading to some people. With indirect, an opener is a way to open an
interaction with a girl so you can begin your 9 steps or whatever to move
from a neutral zone to showing that you like her for some reason,
demonstrating rapport, connection etc etc. Advocates of indirect have
referred to direct as "just another opener" which is completely wrong. With
direct game the only purpose of an opener such as "I like you, I want to get
to know you" is to grab a girls attention in a way that's congruent with
your attitude and frame.

You can't just change the words and switch from indirect to direct, you must
have the correct mindset. As an example;
Indirect people claim that a good way to approach is by being neutral and
having your body turned *away* from the girl and instead turning your head
to look at her. If you try this and replace "who lies more.." with "I like
you.." then you're not being direct, you're being an AFC because she now
knows you like her but you show no confidence.

P.



<TylerDurden> wrote in message
news:239598.38076@discussion.fastseduction.com...
> On 7/21/05 10:47:00 AM, Intime wrote:
>>I LIKE YOU AND WOULD GET TO
>>KNOW YOU.
>>
>>I do use direct but why would
>>you like someone before you
>>know them??
>
>
> Politics aside, and honest question here, I'd be curious to hear an answer
> to
> this as well. I've played around with the "I like you and want to meet
> you"
> opener," but found that I preferred other direct openers because I feel
> weird
> saying that I like her before I met her. Even the old "You look like
> someone
> I'd like to meet" or "You're cute, I wanted to come over here and meet
> you" or
> if you're with friends then "We want to meet you guys."
>
> I always figured that there was something lost in translation here, and
> that
> the other variations sounded smoother. Just from a grammatical
> perspective (I
> realize grammar is a part of the matrix, but hey..) why say that you like
> her
> when that would tend to connote that you know something about her? Does
> "like"
> mean "attracted" in Croatian?
>
>
>
> -TD
> RSD (c) 2005
> 100% Content - 0 % Political Flame Bullshit
>