mASF post by "setarcos"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2005

OM wrote:
> I read in a old post of Tyler that C&F its great in the initial phase of the
> game (i will resume what tyler said). C&F its great for conveying many things
> like, you are confident, you choose the girls, you are funny, etc, but he
said
> that you should stop C&F after some time. When she gets the mssage behind C&F
> (ie, you area player) then you should jump to rapport without C&F because C&F
> its a way to reduce the girl.
>
> YOu need to rapport in order to show the girl who you really are, but C&F may
> blwo up everything.
>
> David DeAngelo says that even in a LTR, C&F its great because you are
seducing
> and playing with her.
>
> The question: isnt bad stop with C&F? Ok, when you rapport, C&F must get away
> from somewhile but after that isnt it a good idea to be C&F (not every time
of
> course)? I mean, playing a little with your GF its nice. Some guys that i
know,
> without knowing, use C&F from times to times and they (the GFs) like it a
lot.
> You are playing with them. So, Why stop completly with C&F?
>
> thanks
>

I've seen this question asked a few times before and I think I recall
Tyler's exact answer. TD correct me if I'm wrong..

DYD's teachings are meant for AFCs who need to start into this. Telling
them to C/F all the time will help correct their overall problem, then
once they get better they can calibrate down.

Also, check out Thundercat's Blog...
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/2005/06/dyd_creates_wus.html

Read the comment by Mystery.

This should address not only your question, but many related topics.