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posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, July 7, 2005lost_and_found, I think you might try a shorter opener like "Who sings this
song?" and then moving past it immediately. That way, it becomes a thirty
second process.
The guys who have trouble with opinion openers are usually the ones who use
them as conversational crutches and get stuck on them. Or the guys who believe
that they must appear unsexual rather than unneedy. The guys who do well move
past them before the girl even knows what happened. When they debrief her in
bed, the girl tells them, "How did we even meet? You just appeared out of
nowhere!"
An opinion opener is not an excuse for YOU to talk to the girl.
An opinion opener is an excuse for the GIRL to talk to you.
Whether or not you get attraction won't depend on the words in your opener, but
whether or not you get anti-slut defense sometimes will.
Girls know what you're up to - whether you're opening or extracting or closing.
When you bring a girl home, you don't say "Let's go have sex." And you
certainly don't need to feel as though you are being ungenuine when you give
some silly reason that makes her comfortable. It is just a tactful and
socially savvy way of moving the interaction forward.
However, if you feel that opening in a similar fashion to how you would close
(by not needing to verbalize the obvious) is ungenuine, then you will project
that onto the set, and even onto other people who you see doing it. The girls
will pickup on that projection in the same way that they pickup on your vibe
and confidence, and your reality of feeling ungenuine will go from being your
reality to being theirs as well.
That said, nobody ever said that you have to use opinion openers. I don't have
trouble gaining attraction by opening directly and asking questions. I don't
think its the superior way, but when I'm in living in Kingston I can't use any
openers or routines at all, and go the entire school year without them because
I bump into the same people too often. It gets the job done.
-TD
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