mASF post by "InnerCalm"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, September 9, 2004On 9/17/04 8:23:00 PM, Rocckkstar wrote:
>There are two good internal
>frames that work well with
>seducing women:
>
>#1.) THE PROMISING LEARNER:
>"I am not afraid to try
>anything. I will approach
>nearly any attractive woman
>with whom I cross paths. I
>enjoy learning, I'm getting
>better at this stuff all the
>time, and fuck, it's pretty
>fun too, especially when you
>start getting results!"
Yeah, I've been there, and it was cool.
>#2.) THE EXPERIENCED
>SEDUCTION ARTIST: Also
>usually includes #1, but in
>addition, "I am the MAN. As a
>really cool fun guy, I enjoy
>the constant expansion of my
>social circle and one of the
>most varied and incredible
>sexual lives of anyone not on
>Hollywood's celebrity A-list."
I've been there too, but somewhere along the line I dropped some of it, I'm not
sure what exactly or why, maybe because of exposure to some of the stuff you
mention below.
>Unfortunately, the most common
>frame around the mASF woods
>tends to be that which I
>mentioned in a recent post
>("Life IS Fair"), an internal
>view often held by a guy with
>high intelligence but a
>pessimistic world-view.
From a distance the world can look like a pessimistic place.
>The GOOD thing in all this is
>that once you get on top,
>you've already DEALT with the
>haters, brushed that dirt off
>your shoulder, pushed on,
>gotten a little more shit, got
>stronger, etc. until you
>nearly peak out at your best.
>At some point, at least for
>me, I started getting little
>to no bullshit from people
>because they went from a
>mostly confrontational
>challenge of me as a kickass
>guy to a view of, "Damn, this
>dude's pretty cool. Guys
>probably think he's the shit,
>and as far as women, well...
>no doubt he rarely sleeps
>alone."
>
>A lot of guys here think
>they're the shit, and they're
>not, but that's fine, because
>hopefully they're in the
>transition between frames #1
>and #2. Generally, these
>AREN'T the guys hating on
>other ASFers though. The guys
>hating never get out of that
>pessimistic world-view, the
>negative paradigms shared by
>MANY guys of our type (smart,
>tech-savvy, etc.). After all,
>Internet self-help type joints
>like mASF tend to attract
>certain kinds of people
>(Paradiso and I talked at
>length about this recently).
>
>As an aside, the biggest issue
>I have isn't with haters,
>cause that's just natural and
>it happens everywhere. The
>only beef I have are with guys
>who talk a lot, are selling a
>product as a "seduction GURU",
>but don't offer any concrete
>facts, evidence, or whatever
>you wanna call it of their
>success with women. But maybe
>that's just because I'm better
>than 90%+ of the seduction
>"professionals" out there...
>or maybe I'm just hatin'! ;-)
>
>.-~ Rocckkstar
I don't think you're hatin, I think you're being very realistic, and that's
cool! Everybody needs a good perspective of reality every now and then to keep
them in touch, and you have a way of presenting it without making derogatory
statements about others, that's cool.
>~-.rocckkstar.buzznet.com
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