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mASF post by "Mystery"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, March 3, 2005

>Why you waste time with a poser and fake
>like Elvis "King" is beyond me, but if
>you are enjoying yourself, go get him,
>Tiger!

yeah it was my mistake. I saw it on Thundercat's site and for some reason
assumed it was a serious community dude so checked him out. My bad.

>It's without doubt, your personal PUA
>skills are unquestionable.

>I also think you are a fine teacher of
>your own system(although using my NLP
>modeling skills I think I came up with
>some distinctions about what you do that
>you may not be consciously aware of!).

yes that is quite probable.

>Now, here is my question: do you think a
>guy who is in his 30's and 40's who has
>NEVER had a girlfriend in his life, or
>maybe has had one or two women in that
>time, been married for years and now
>single, etc, could take one of your
>workshops and truly pull of
>Mystery-Method in a club setting?

Well, I believe if a person is reasonably mentally healthy I can work with him,
but if he needs some sort of professional therapy Im not the goto guy because
Im not a therapist. a 40 year old virgin compels me to believe there is more to
his problem than just not having the balls to pickup.

Also, I am not out to merely get someone laid. Im out to give a man choice by
putting him on the path to mastery of the venusian arts. what is mastery?
having the ability to fuck any women he desires.

here are a couple metaphors:

if a guy has a healthy mind and body be CAN, with time, learn to ride a
motorcycle. Barring the few wackos who just cant do it (retards) most people
can do it. I believe if you can ride a motorcycle you can learn the mystery
method.

some people want to be black belt in the martial arts. some just want to win a
fight they fear they must go through because of a bully. If I were a censei I
wouldnt be the goto guy if you were being bullied. When you want to be a black
belt in the venusian arts (known as blood charm) come to me.

>Or would it frankly just be too far
>above where they currently are at?

frankly, its too far below what I do. Im out to make more TDs and Styles, not
more unhappily married men.

>No doubt: a guy with good, solid game
>going in(who had just never learned to
>work a club) could get it.

reframe: I dont build CLUB GUYS. clubs are just practice grounds for a time in
the future when a woman of particular quality comes along (in ANY situation).
you will have the experience to get her without hesitation because you treated
a club like a dojo.

>But what about a guy you might label "hopeless"?

I dont take on "hopeless" cases. We have a very strict qualifying process
before anyone is able to do my bootcamp. Savoy, my business partner, rigorously
examines a person before accepting them. yes, we do turn away people. not just
anyone with some spare cash can take my bootcamp. they are quite elite. One
doesnt need any skill in picking up women before participating (though it
sometimes helps) in my bootcamp but they need to be relatively healthy and able
to function in society. again, if someone can ridee a motorcycle, odds are they
can learn MM.

>I can take a guy like this from nothing
>to getting laid regularly.

And that is why you and I have different and unique selling propositions. This
works out nicely for both of us. Im out to empower men to consistently get 9s
and 10s. I dont even know how to get a 7. Neg theory blows 7s out. See, some
people think its HARDER to get a 10. but its not. its just DIFFERENT. it takes
the same amount of "sarge time". I work to get guys so good (if they want it
bad enough) that they could, if they wanted, start their own PRO-PUA business.

If a "hopeless loser" just wants to get a 7, I would turn him away. (I dont
like to pray on the weak - J/K)

>I wouldn't attempt to teach him clubs.
>That is YOUR ball of wax.(But I
>certainly wouldn't start him there
>either!)

agreed. NEWBIE is fine for me, but he has to be able to FUNCTION in society and
have at least average intelligence.

>Do you think you could take a guy with
>zero or little game, put him through a
>bootcamp, and have him running Mystery
>Method successfully in a club on 9's and
>10's?

many of my students have zero game before they participate, but they also have
a desire to become great at it. When you want to BE the best, you COME TO the
best.

>No knock on your PUA skills; they are
>unquestioned. This is a different kind
>of challenge.

understood. And this is likely why our proposed challenge (MM vs. SS) never
occured: we simply have different markets.

Mystery
www.mysterymethod.com»

PS: look for the April edition of Las Vegas Life Magazine. There is an article
about me (and NAKED PHOTOS OF MY GIRLFRIEND) in it. 5 pages!



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